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u/Daedalus_Mind Mar 29 '23
Context: https://redd.it/124tawf
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u/eppinizer Mar 29 '23
Thank you. I have been sitting here rereading the comic for five times trying to figure out what I was missing
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u/Regorek Mar 29 '23
I was out here wondering what "Seank" was slang for, and why I hadn't heard of it before now.
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u/eppinizer Mar 29 '23
Lol, at first I thought it was like a new word for Python. From Python into Snake into Seank. But then that didn't make any sense in context
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u/TheRavenSayeth Mar 29 '23
Whenever the joke here doesn’t make sense just assume it’s a cobol joke. That may not be true but it’s easier.
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u/absolutarin Mar 29 '23
Thank you.
I love inside jokes. Love to be a part of one someday
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u/Wise-Cheesecake-238 Mar 29 '23
Why are they not allowing me to click this link?
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u/Heroic_Onion Mar 29 '23
I was getting so annoyed seeing the notification screenshot posted a thousand times, but this made me laugh more than it should have.
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u/SexyMuon Mar 29 '23
Sean K doing gods work out there
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u/GhostalMedia Mar 29 '23
Am I the only one who has been pronouncing seank like a fucked up version of “sneak?”
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u/chazzaward Mar 29 '23
I’ve been reading it as pronounced C-Ank, because I forgot the name sean exists
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u/AydonusG Mar 29 '23
I've been pronouncing it like Cartman saying sink during his Latino teacher days. "How do I fix this seank?!"
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u/hey_ulrich Mar 29 '23
Why? What's the limit? Who dared to set a limit for laughing about this?
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u/pekkhum Mar 29 '23
I had to do something like this once, but it was "we are supposed to be using fake data in test, who keeps sending [ridiculously famous person's] real social security number to the printer from dev?"
It took a bit, but I found them and murdered their data set.
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u/pekkhum Mar 29 '23
My company went to great lengths to remove real socials and names from Dev. My boss then went behind their backs and bypassed it all. But, as you say, our laws don't actually hold companies accountable, so unless his boss gets mad, it won't change.
I usually can't even get our security team to care about massive impersonation and remote execution risks because "legacy is out of scope."
By legacy, they mean the system with all the PII, that processes every record and prints legal checks, has an active dev team of 8 people, 4 QAs and pushes new releases daily. It is literally the beating heart of the company and it is "out of scope" for security.
I need to go calm down for a bit. 😡
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u/KimmiG1 Mar 29 '23
It was not exactly uncommon for European devs to have access to prod data befor gdpr. Some even developed agains a copy of the prod database.
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u/bacondev Mar 29 '23
I was once a software developer who had read access to the production database that had names, addresses, SSNs, phone numbers, bank account numbers, credit card numbers, etc. We had an auditor come in and I mentioned it to them. I left the company to focus on my education. I came back and the most sensitive information was thankfully unavailable. However, they keep daily backups on S3 and never change the password. So not like the change did a whole lot. No longer with that company.
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u/PM_ME_UR_COFFEE_CUPS Mar 30 '23
Certainly not in my company. Sensitive data is extremely locked down. Maybe in others but not mine for sure. Many times as a dev I didn’t even have read access to my own database in prod, only in case of emergency could I gain access.
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u/TeddyBearComputer Mar 29 '23
The difference is that the wild west existed more than data protection...
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u/fghjconner Mar 29 '23
If you run a service that has access to some piece of data, then some developer can almost certainly access it too. You can slap layers of encryption and protection on top, but someone has to have access to those as well.
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u/db2 Mar 29 '23
I wonder how many people have ordered today and put 'hello test1' as their name.
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u/Skadoodle69 Mar 29 '23
They really should give Seank a promotion and add a Seank product (I take giftcards Starbucks)
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u/ma-int Mar 29 '23
I just recently sent 80k customers an email with a wrong discount price in it. Whoopsie doodle, shit happens.
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u/big_boi_26 Mar 30 '23
How does the company handle that? Honor it? Send a redaction?
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u/snakefinn Mar 30 '23
I imagine the standard procedure is to pretend it never happened / quietly fix it
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u/ma-int Mar 30 '23
Yes. Usually we do not push customers noses into mistakes and let customer support handle those that reach out.
However in this case we did send an apology to those customers since the volume was so high.
We also did a post mortem and improved processes a bit.
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u/gordonv Mar 29 '23
seank should be a C level executive.
He/She/It is more well known than any other person at Starbucks.
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u/Suterusu_San Mar 29 '23
Your Executives can code in C? I'm almost sure ours don't even know how to code!
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u/gordonv Mar 29 '23
In all seriousness, I've met VPs who not only could code, but were actively coding for their job. This was in the financial industry. Top 4.
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u/Suterusu_San Mar 29 '23
Damn, for real? I've only ever seen it a few times, but they were long gone from their coding days, and it was generally in much smaller companies.
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u/kabrandon Mar 29 '23
The CEO of the company I work for actually co-authored the most widely used standard for email encryption using asymmetric cryptography. Highly technical leadership does exist and isn't a myth.
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u/GhostalMedia Mar 29 '23
Meanwhile, my company has some chiefs that never worked in the department, but now head up a line of business that they have no expertise in. Like having a car mechanic oversee a bunch of brain surgeons.
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u/BobQuixote Mar 30 '23
VP is an overused, nigh meaningless, title in that environment, per my experience.
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u/ShitpostsAlot Mar 29 '23
I'm about 95% sure all my CEO knows how to do is drink and network. He's pretty good at his job, and things are pretty good for us as a result.
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u/Maximum_Photograph_6 Mar 29 '23
Your CEO is giving queen ant vibes. "We're just making sure they're fed, they're pretty good at that, so things are pretty good for us too"
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u/gordonv Mar 29 '23
And Ironically, It's today I see the name of Starbuck's CEO in a headline.
Howard Shultz.
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u/Monoso22 Mar 30 '23
You could be so much more efficient and save so much time if you implemented the native gender neutral functions of the English language instead of covering multiple cases individually
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u/BobQuixote Mar 30 '23
native gender neutral functions of the English language
Honestly, that portion of the API sucks.
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u/Monoso22 Mar 30 '23
idk i thought it was straightforward enough when i learned it as a non-native speaker; if fellas from the 1600s could use it i dont see why not use it now
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u/BobQuixote Mar 30 '23
A crowd of married couples walked in, and each person gave me his coat.
If only 'it' had not somehow come to strip the subject of personhood, we would be fine.
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u/Monoso22 Mar 30 '23
'it' isn't the default gender-neutral pronoun, 'they' is
the use of 'they' as a pronoun for an individual person whose gender is unknown has been a part of the English language for many centuries now, and I assure you that you use the singular form of 'they' regularly and don't even realize it
>"Oh no, it appears someone left their umbrella"
is a basic example
the word 'you' is also a pronoun that can be used for a singular or a plural subject depending on the context
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u/BobQuixote Mar 30 '23
'it' isn't the default gender-neutral pronoun, 'they' is
Per the grammarians, that would be 'he' until relatively recently.
I assure you that you use the singular form of 'they' regularly and don't even realize it
I very much do. It sucks for different reasons than the other options, but it wins out for being the conventional solution.
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u/Monoso22 Mar 30 '23
actually, as far as I know, 'he' is only the default in some gendered languages (like Spanish, my native tongue). The use of 'they' as a singular pronoun has been documented for my centuries at this point, which is a well-known fact
here are two very easy-to-find sources: one and two
what is 'new', however, is the use of 'singular they' in the context of a nonbinary person (which isn't really 'new' either considering the presence of nonbinary people throughout history in different cultures (random example)). This doesn't take away from the fact that the word has been used as a gender-neutral for quite a while in English though
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u/BobQuixote Mar 30 '23
By the standard of "used," it appears to date to the 1300s. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singular_they .
Though some early-21st-century style guides described it as colloquial and less appropriate in formal writing, by 2020 most style guides accepted the singular they as a personal pronoun.
By referring to the grammarians, I was making a prescriptivist claim. Sometime in the last decade or two, 'they' became widely prescribed.
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u/Skadoodle69 Mar 29 '23
I deadass thought he’s called Seank
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u/anaveragebuffoon Mar 29 '23
I've been pronouncing it seeyonk in my head until now
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u/klavin1 Mar 29 '23
Shawnk
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u/ShitpostsAlot Mar 29 '23
For anyone unfamiliar with the pronunciation of this, it's either 'seank' or 'shawnk' but very rarely, you'll meet someone who says it 'shaunk'
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u/Orangutanion Mar 29 '23
[ʃeɪŋk]
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u/ZentriX21 Mar 29 '23
I don't get it, sorry
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u/BlazingBlastEZ Mar 29 '23
Recently all IOS users of the Starbucks app have gotten a notification "Hello test1 from seank" which has been posted nearly a hundred times on this subreddit
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I saw another one earlier with the same message from a different app. Same seank
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u/NoNameRequiredxD Mar 29 '23
Some apps are paying their respects to seank since they're probably in some trouble
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u/SKT_Phoenix1 Mar 29 '23
There’s no way any reasonable company would get him in trouble. If an intern can send push notifications to the entire user base that reeks of a larger access control issue that SeanK brought to light.
I just hope Starbucks is reasonable
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u/_Diskreet_ Mar 29 '23
I hear they were super reasonable to some stores that tried to unionise.
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u/bacondev Mar 29 '23 edited Mar 30 '23
Here's the thing. For any given company, how it treats its white collar works differs from how it treats its blue collar workers. Unless it's Amazon.
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u/jsalsman Mar 30 '23
My friends with Amazon dev jobs have told me they're cushy, but I don't know about post-layoffs.
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u/bacondev Mar 30 '23
I've read countless times that it's a toxic work environment. For example, it's encouraged to rat people out for stupid shit. Unfortunately, my memory is fuzzy enough on this that I can't give a more specific example.
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u/apc0243 Mar 29 '23
Someone's gotta take the blame and it sure as hell ain't gonna be management!
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u/FerricDonkey Mar 30 '23
I mean, this doesn't require blame because nothing bad happened. The company can laugh it off, say "poor seank did an oopsies, we've changed it so he can't again and gave him the day off and a Starbucks gift card to calm down, aren't we nice, reasonable accommodating people". Then rack in praise and free advertising.
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u/fghjconner Mar 29 '23
Technically, we don't know he's an intern. Could be he's a senior level developer that demanded this level of access for some reason. Most likely though you're right.
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u/myflesh Mar 29 '23
Even more since it could be a great place for free advertisement. People are talking about this and sharing this.
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u/jonerthan Mar 29 '23
I am an iOS user of the Starbucks app and I have not received any message from seank. I feel left out :(
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u/bobcat7781 Mar 29 '23
Oh. I thought the comic was just showing a sneaky way to get his coffee "delivered".
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u/handyandy63 Mar 29 '23
I got that part, but I don’t get how the scenario in this comic is supposed to have resulted in that message being sent.
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u/TheBlackCat13 Mar 29 '23
I think the idea is that the programmer was trying to find "Hello test1" by informing every starbucks user in the world that the order is ready.
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u/TheBlackCat13 Mar 29 '23
That makes more sense. I was assuming it was some sort of malicious SQL query joke.
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u/missingJackeD Mar 29 '23
This is pretty funny but still doesn't beat the guy who sent the Hawaii missile alert
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u/MisterChimAlex Mar 29 '23
had something like this happen, cant talk much about it but...
We missed some "messages" to some customers, someone in the team gather all those customers emails, did a pythin script with a while loop to send them the missing messages...unfortunately they didnt code the break of the while correctly so we ended up sending thousands of messages to the same N customers... not good... they had to talk to some lawyers .
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u/AnonPenguins Mar 29 '23
while loop
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u/MisterChimAlex Mar 29 '23
I think it was not the final version, they were testing the process of sending the messages and how many “messages we could send in X time”, thats the reason for the initial infinite while, we had a mock cellphones so they made sure it worked and it received the messages, eventually i think they just switched to the real deal not realizing about the loop and just pointing to prod and changing the csv with the customer data.
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u/jawshoeaw Mar 30 '23
Was working in production Electronic Medical Record (EMR) software and my goto patient was Test, John. We gave him all kinds of fun stuff. Fast forward a year or so and I wanted to test something so I pulled him up. Got a warning this patient’s chart was flagged for auditing and that any access was logged and reviewed. Ok shrug. Then I see a note “this is a real person!” Oops. I guess someone had the last name “Test”
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u/odraencoded Mar 29 '23
Plot twist: it's not sean k, it's Sea, North Korea. They were testing their nuke system.
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u/ClarenceLe Mar 30 '23
I like the implication that Starbucks is a NK's shadow company that can send specific messages to their Starbucks' undercover/sleeper agents.
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u/pikadrew Mar 29 '23
Is there any chance that this was done to fill the news results for today with this story and not the story that they're currently getting grilled by Bernie Sanders about their aggressive union-busting practices?
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u/CuriousPenguinSocks Mar 29 '23
I mean, it did send out a notification, you can work from there seank.
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u/Far_King_Howl Mar 29 '23
He didn't do what I did yesterday which makes me wonder why I still have a job, so he gets a pass
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u/rollincuberawhide Mar 29 '23
honestly if anything it was free marketing for starbucks. I'd give him a month of salary bonus.
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u/Fluffaykitties Mar 30 '23
I don’t know why I didn’t realize it was “Sean K.”
I was reading it like “sink” with an accent
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u/Keysersoze_is_dead Mar 30 '23 edited Mar 30 '23
Will the real seank please stand up, please stand up
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u/TurtleSandwich0 Mar 29 '23
I have been seank. I hope he is able to laugh about it.
At least he got a coffee out of it.