r/SapphoAndHerFriend • u/nastyjman • 11d ago
Has scantily clad male dancers, sings about bussy, but still probably straight... Casual erasure
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u/shaodyn He/Him 11d ago
"How much more obviously gay do I need to be?" - Lil Nas X
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u/SpiderFnJerusalem 11d ago
TF2 Spy voice: "Seduce me!"
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u/TrippinNL 11d ago
Want some chicken?
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u/SpiderFnJerusalem 11d ago
I'm not one of your fried chicken tramps!
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u/Freeman_Traceur 10d ago
I am a woman, I like my men dangerous, mysterious. You want to be my lover? Earn it! Seduce me!
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u/_mach 11d ago
it's like the right is using a "No True Gay Man" fallacy;
it allows them to look at something that "works", and dismiss it because "it was a trick all along", and consequently lets them retain their bigotry.
I think it's a defense mechanism of sorts.
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u/Razur 11d ago
Ahh, that explains Milo Yiannopoulos then.
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u/FellowGeeks 11d ago
That is a name I have not heard for a long time
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u/Kidsnextdorks 11d ago
Nor that I wanted to hear. Can we as a society just leave it at he got clowned on the Drunken Peasants while self-reporting and leave him to rot in his hate?
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u/Ratheka_Stormbjorne 10d ago
He interned with one of the sedition caucus and was hanging out with Ye recently, so he's not gone. He was also selling being a catholic convert and conversion therapy.
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u/udon_junkie 11d ago
If being gay was about sucking at life and not human dick, would that make all MAGA Republicans queer?
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u/Usery10 11d ago
People feel so entitled to know your sexuality or deny it. It’s really weird.
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u/shaodyn He/Him 11d ago
I personally don't feel anyone else's sexuality is my business unless they decide to share it with me, but I feel as though that's something of a rare viewpoint.
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u/Usery10 11d ago
I feel the same way. No one ever comes out as straight….😂 they kind of just live their life
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u/chaos_nebula 11d ago
I kind of did. But when the local religion crushes all sexuality so you never bring anyone of the opposite sex home, and you are vocal about defending certain human rights, some people start asking questions.
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u/grantbwilson 11d ago
Reminds me of Eminem being gay in The Interview
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u/yeswithaz 10d ago
And the “funny” thing about that is he also gets a lot of idiots telling him to stop talking about being gay. Turns out you can’t please a homophobe.
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u/ThatSquareChick 11d ago
Enough to make straight women drop trou.
Like, Prince-looking-ass
motherfatherfucker…I saw him (lil Nas X) once and I was like “mm yessir we both have the same taste in cock.” Maybe it just takes one to know one? I thought I used to have that thing called gaydar but then I realized I was just bi and hyper focused on eyes.
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u/Andromansis 11d ago
The closest analogue to this behavior in the heterosphere that I've observed is that me and my friends worked out that when a girl tell you that she has her nipples peices that your response should be that you don't believe her, that way if she tries to prove it you get to see some nipple or something better.
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u/auspiciusstrudel 11d ago
male-heterosphere. I can assure you from direct experience that queer women will try this one on too. ;)
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u/Hopelesscumrag 11d ago
Also him “ I don’t mess with that gay shit “ on speeds livestream
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u/Hopelesscumrag 11d ago
Yes I know this was a joke but some people cat tore when someone’s joking
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u/shadeandshine 11d ago
I love Lil Nas X for the time he (I’m gonna paraphrase) “I gotta fight these straight allegations” like he is is truly a icon of showing how someone not straight can fucking make it big and damn people are huffing copium hard to not admit that yeah he’s definitely gay.
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u/XtendedImpact 11d ago edited 11d ago
I gotta fight these straight allegations
i’m the first nigga to have to beat straight allegations
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u/Kichigai 11d ago
I haven't really gotten into his music, but God damn do I like his attitude.
I remember the outrage around Montero, and it's “satanic” music video. He was all, “for years y’all were telling me that I was going to hell, and now you're all pissed that I actually went and did it.”
I don't normally talk like this, but I feel like I ought to be shouting “yaasss, slay queen” in response.
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u/ThatSquareChick 11d ago
I grew up with Dre and Bone Thugs and though Lil Nas X is not them, he has style, talent and ambition. He has the drive that someone needs to have what he does and not just get swallowed up by hate and just, nothing publicly affects this kid! I’m 40 years old and I’m so damn proud of him for commanding the respect he deserves.
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u/mindbleach 11d ago
Right? He went "okay, boomer" to Christianity.
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u/Kichigai 11d ago
I feel like that's a gross reduction of the response. It wasn't a flippant disregard of religion, but a direct response to the people who were determined to find any reason to be outraged by him.
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u/thatwitchofthewilds They/Them 11d ago
Honestly his Tweets are the only thing I miss about Twitter. Not a huge fan of his music, Montero was okay, but god damn would I kill to have his sass.
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u/xxpen15mightierxx 11d ago
Not gay myself but I remember thinking "this music video must be for gay guys what watching WAP is for straights," he could literally not be more clearly gay.
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u/flounder19 He/Him 11d ago
The video of him cat calling a pigeon always gets me
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u/Abbacoverband 11d ago
I uh...need this please
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u/flounder19 He/Him 11d ago
now i can't find it and I'm crushed. I better not have dreamed this
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u/Fibonacci_11235813a 10d ago
where did you look I typed in YouTube “Lil Nas X Pigeon”
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u/flounder19 He/Him 10d ago
I was just using google and it was NOT being helpful. Even with pigeon in quotes
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u/larsdragl 11d ago
Was there any doubt after elton fucking John?
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u/shadeandshine 11d ago
Yes cause some genres are deeply either entrenched in toxic masculinity or old stereotypes. Country and rap honestly it’s why songs and artist that address it or go against it stand out. It’s normally in those where for men it’s about being a tough dude in terms of image. Tbh it makes old town road iconic in the regard that he tackled two genres that don’t see much success for gay men
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u/NorahKing 10d ago
My life is a movie
Bull riding and boobies
Cowboy hat from Gucci
Wrangler on my booty
Yeah okay but this lyric from old town road about “boobies” reads like Captain Holt from B99 pretending to be straight.
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u/RedpenBrit96 11d ago edited 11d ago
Holy shit that was amazing. What a dude. On a serious note though why aren’t people believing him when he says he’s bi?
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u/fayalit 11d ago edited 10d ago
Because they don't want to admit to liking a
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u/RedpenBrit96 11d ago
Oooof. That’s sad
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u/FiveOhFive91 11d ago
Not all gay people make amazing music, but there sure are a lot of them
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u/flaminghair348 11d ago
Yup, my experience in high school band confirms this. Idk if it's just the fact that band is a safe space for LGBTQ+ people, but there are a whole lot more gay people in band in proportion to the rest of the school
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u/calan_dineer 11d ago
It’s because lots of music related stuff is perceived as not masculine if not outright gay. If you’re gay, this doesn’t bother you at all. If you’re secure in your masculinity/heterosexuality, this doesn’t bother you at all. If you’re closeted, insecure, or just a bigot, you’re gonna avoid most music stuff like the plague.
A second source is that it hasn’t been that long that the LGBTQIA++ community has had much societal acceptance. In the past, music was one area you could be anything close to your real self without serious persecution. When faced with the choice of a career in music or a more normal life, a disproportionate number of LGBTQIA++ people chose music.
It hasn’t been nearly long enough for current acceptance levels to have had much effect on the music industry. Here’s hoping we’re all able to see if widespread acceptance actually has a noticeable effect.
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u/Full_Change_3890 11d ago
I have never heard music being perceived as gay before with the exception of musical theatre.
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u/FiveOhFive91 11d ago
I'm a former orchestra kid. I didn't think it was like that in high school, but looking through IG it's very clear lol
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u/Schackshuka 11d ago
I was a high school band kid and one of maybe three out kids…..but I graduated in ‘05.
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u/flaminghair348 11d ago
It's definitely changed a lot, I can think of like eight or nine people just off the top of my head who are out, and I'm for sure forgetting some.
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u/captainthomas 11d ago
True. A lot of them are shit at anything musical but great at software engineering or nursing.
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u/Notthatguyagain_ 11d ago
I don't think that's what this is about. I think this is about his transphobia accusations.
(which I think are bullshit just for the record)
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u/sarah-havel 11d ago
Wait. What?
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u/Notthatguyagain_ 11d ago
He posted a picture of a woman that looked very similar to him and said something like "the surgery was a success" and many people were unhappy with that.
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u/mbb011 11d ago
How is that transphobic? Genuinely curious. Couldn't it count as observational humor?
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u/Faxon 11d ago
Because apparently you're not allowed to joke about being trans unless you yourself are trans, which is fucking bullshit. Just don't make jokes that are depreciating to trans people, which Lil Nas X didn't do. I'm nonbinary and I make jokes like that all the time, its just queer humor. You see this kind or shit all the time in queer shitposting groups lol
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u/Anticode 11d ago edited 11d ago •
I'm nonbinary and I make jokes like that all the time, its just queer humor.
From my limited experience, the people those jokes or references involve are rarely the people getting offended.
Based on what you see online, you'd think every trans girl was in a perpetual state of hyper-authoritarian gender affirmation mode, but every single one I've met or dated was just a super cool chick who'd laugh at the same sort of fucked up modern internet humor as anyone else; and generally more so. For people out of the closet, their whole-ass existence has been a sort of 'trial by fire' and humor is one of the most effective ways to survive trauma. This observation holds even if there may be some confirmation bias at play (since I'd only want to be around people that mesh well with me in the first place).
In fact, I've been scolded by cis/straight "allies" for commentary that resulted praise or appreciation from trans people for making the insight.
That's not to say a bit of poise and subtlety isn't required to understand the difference between what's funny, what's mean, and what's genuinely hurtful, but I think most well-meaning people know the difference instinctually and most rational LGBT people know when people intend the best (even in the cases where they didn't say 'the best'). Unless you're addicted to anger, enslaved by an overactive amygdala, or savor experiencing faux-righteousness, it's typically extremely clear when someone is doing something offensive under the guise of "it's a just a joke, bro" and when they're not (which is why it's a terrible strategy used by terrible people).
The nature of the present day internet tends to magnify the worst and most extreme of any sociocultural opinion. I think it's important to determine what's a "shout" being signal boosted by algorithms and what's actually the beliefs of the majority. In most cases, a simple heuristic of "if this is going viral, it's probably not" serves us well.
Considering the subreddit, I'm preaching to the choir, but I think it's important that people who aren't gay or trans or queer or whatever themselves don't view those people as some sort of ticking time bomb. It only leads to greater levels of exclusion and discomfort for everyone involved. I think this misconception is a common excuse for people to act more bigoted; sometimes even a cause! Due to their fear (or resent) of offending someone for saying something otherwise humorous/sensible, they avoid those people entirely.
They never get the chance to realize that a trans girl, for example, feels like just... a girl in every sense of the word. It's kind of an epiphany for a lot of people (sometimes even the trans person themselves - "This feels so right wtf"). Many hateful people never realize that they have interacted with trans people before, they just didn't recognize The Signs or get any cultural backlash or any discomfort at all. It's kind of ridiculous, really. Like being afraid of and avoiding dogs because you've seen pictures of wolves online.
The reality is that most people aren't ticking time bombs of spontaneous offense. They're usually super chill about those topics and are perfectly happy to educate people when needed or otherwise just laugh at "offensive" humor/observations, just like anyone else would about their own sociocultural niche or stereotypes. People is people.
Edit: Minor bug fixes.
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u/duadhe_mahdi-in 11d ago
The "trial by fire" metaphor is brilliant. I'll steal that if you don't mind.
The humor thing was a big part of how I became a decent human being. I grew up in the late 80s/early 90s, so as a kid gay jokes were just a thing that was always around. When I actually realized that people that I know and love are LGBTQ it also hit me how the little comments or jokes that were innocuous to me and most of my friends were hurting them, little by little, and it was my fault.
It took time, but I trained it out of myself. No more gay jokes, unless it's the "don't threaten me with a good time" type.
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u/Anticode 11d ago edited 11d ago
the little comments or jokes that were innocuous to me and most of my friends were hurting them
Sometimes people have trouble understanding this part, or they feel like the explanation for why certain things can be damaging in a subtle way is overbearing or requires a bit too much abstract thinking to embody (eg: "It's offensive because the insinuation of inherent negativity evoked with statements like 'that [bad thing] is gay haha' creates a direct association between 'bad'= 'gay', therefore 'gay = bad'.") It sounds clinical or complicated to some people and since it includes multiple steps of relativity, it might sound like some sort of mental gymnastics rather than a genuine assessment of associations to some people. To declare that no such dynamic exists is the actual gymnastics.
An example I like to give instead is pointing out that phrases like "suck my dick" or "that sucks dick" is harmful towards the goals of people that like having their dick sucked, or like to suck such things.
Why would you want to frame a good thing as a negative or offensive activity? Would you want your partner to feel like they're doing something shameful or pathetic when she goes down on you? Wouldn't there be more of that going on if it was regularly celebrated or praised on a sociocultural level?
Somehow ("somehow") this sort of example is much more easily understood by the sort of people who like to say "it's just a word" or similar excuses for their behavior.
Equivalently, it's also inherently stupid to throw around words like "slut" casually because it risks shaming women into having less sex or being more conservative when it does happen. The sort of people who use that word tend to be the sort of people who absolutely want to have more sex with more women (to the point that it's often a chip on their shoulder), so it's beyond ironic for them to shoot down their own goals by poisoning the well. Myopic beyond belief.
Both of these scenarios tend to be extremely effective at highlighting the dynamic to people who're otherwise philosophically or culturally resistant to "SJW" perspectives - 'Oh shit...'
Inversely, it's actually incredibly easy to make "gay jokes" that sound very similar and yet either highlight the irony of a situation or humorously normalize homosexuality (or anything) in a productive and beneficial manner, something that Lil Nas X does practically constantly. The topic of this whole thread is exactly that sort of thing.
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u/Notthatguyagain_ 11d ago
There's a very loud subset of people on the internet who genuinely just want something to get angry at or find a reason why other people are not as virtuous as they are. And any time the tiniest "moral infraction" is identified, that person is automatically not part of the in-group anymore. As can be seen here by this person trying to claim that he's not actually part of the lgbt community, because members would never make "transphobic" jokes. Which is ironically incredibly homophobic in my opinion.
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u/mgquantitysquared 11d ago
If I had to guess I’d say some cis allies got overzealous and saw something that wasn’t really there
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u/sarah-havel 11d ago
I could see why that might upset trans people, but I also don't think that was his intent. However, I'm not inside his head so I'm mostly talking out of my butt
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u/AnoiaDearheart 11d ago
That makes no sense, because NikkieTutorials is a trans makeup youtuber and she mentioned that she got invited to the Met Gala and that she wanted to meet Lil Nas and he deliberately found her to take a photo with her and told her she was iconic and that he admired her.
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u/PLZ_N_THKS 11d ago
I don’t really care one way or another about his music, but I gotta say he puts on a good show.
My wife wanted to see him so we went to a show in LA last year and it was pretty amazing!
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u/Ifromjipang 11d ago
Gay men making good music? Are you out of your mind? You think hot blooded masculine music idols like Elton John or Freddie Mercury could have become some of the best selling artists of all time if they had cock on the brain?
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u/16yYPueES4LaZrbJLhPW 11d ago
Nah, people do that to all of us. We're either "gay in denial," or "not really gay" depending on who you ask. I'd bet money that most people would respond with either, because everyone that knows about me has said either of them so far.
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u/Euphoriapleas 11d ago
Because gay people don't exist. It's a political ploy to push an agenda and profit off wokeness (/s do I really need a tone indicator? )
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u/2mock2turtle 11d ago
Gay people were invented in 2005 to rehabilitate Madonna's image when Confessions on a Dance Floor was released.
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u/lambeosaura 11d ago
that album really is fire tho holy fuck
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u/2mock2turtle 11d ago
Found the gay! (jk you're right though, probably her best post-Ray of Light album.)
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u/SongofNimrodel 11d ago
Let's not forget that even the gays are often claiming that he's straight because bi erasure is a huge problem in the LGBT+ community too.
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u/Euphoriapleas 11d ago
True, before I came out as a woman, me being bi was often taken as just a stop on my way to gay.
It would be a cringe reaction regardless, but I find it extra weird when he was so openly gay and has and continues to get a ton of shit for it.
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u/SongofNimrodel 11d ago
It's apparently only performative dick sucking, which is the funniest thing I have ever heard because it's projecting the classic shit they say about bi women onto a bi man.
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u/mjbibliophile10 11d ago
Also people have a harder time admitting that black men are gay/bi
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u/PitBikeViper 11d ago
I think it’s a part of bi-erasure. People not believing people can be bisexual and are in fact pandering.
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u/Dancing_Trash_Panda 11d ago
The same happened with Freddie Mercury. To a lot of the gay/lesbian community, it's impossible to admit some celebrities like more than one gender. (Bi, pan, etc.) It's like a weird, extended version of gold star lesbians. Only one gender and it has to be the same gender.
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u/Ok_Skill_1195 11d ago
He's a black american, a community with lot of issues with homophobia.
He's a troll, so people just put too much thought into everything he does because sometimes it turns out he was fucking with people.
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u/SenorSplashdamage 11d ago
Just to add to point 1. Did research on this and the idea that its not really a “Black community” thing, but rather that a number of Black Americans tend to be at the intersection of the two biggest drivers of homophobia: region and religiosity. When you remove those, Black American actually rank as the warmest of of all groups toward gay people.
So, might feel like being picky about wording, but really important thing is that it’s not driven by anything inherent to Blackness or even shared Black culture, and Black Americans vary as much from each other when it comes to region and religion as any other group. It’s more the higher numbers in the Bible Belt that drives a lot of the perception and examples.
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u/Player2onReddit 11d ago
My Jamaican friend said that Jamaica is rampant with homophobia, and in his opinion it's just their cultural norm, Jamaicans being mostly Christian.
But he said the Rastas were very homophobic as well.
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u/TheFatJesus 11d ago
There was another tweet where he said he was the first person to have to beat straight accusations.
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u/EvilSporkOfDeath 11d ago
What about Bowie?
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u/Sckaledoom 11d ago
I’m sorry but was anyone on the fucking planet under the impression Bowie was straight?
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u/nate_ranney 11d ago
you'd be surprised. He's had to clarify several times to reporters who thought he was joking.
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u/Tweho 11d ago
Bi people don’t exist to a lot of gay folks unfortunately. I’ve noticed more stigma from my gay group of friends than I do my straights
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u/SivleFred 11d ago
For me, it’s because he loves to troll just to get a reaction and cause a Twitter uproar, so when he said that, there was a moment where I wondered if he was joking.
Note he’s the same guy who sent a “surgery was a success” tweet that got backlash for seeming transphobic, and really, LNX is outright impossible to pin down, being the memer he is.
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u/Ok_Skill_1195 11d ago
That tweet was funny, it did look like him if he transitioned/was a woman. It didn't seem to be taking a swing at the trans community or belittling transitioning, just pointing out it looks like a femme version of himself. I really don't get why people freaked out or wouldn't accept the apology.
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u/lurkinarick 11d ago
He's bi, but yeah
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u/Glitter_puke 11d ago
But he exists. And bisexuals are a myth. Therefore he can't be bi.
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u/autisticprincess 11d ago
Even the people commenting on this goddamn post are saying that he’s something he’s not (gay does not equal bi, people!)
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u/music3k 11d ago
There’s a lot of pop artists lately who are being attacked for queerbaiting. Miley, Harry Styles, Weeknd etc.
No one cared that Prince was bi but everyone cares now because they want these artists to speak out because Republicans keep trying to take away lgbtq+ rights.
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u/2mock2turtle 11d ago
I mean I would like to see it.
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u/Kiri_serval 11d ago
I mean, he doesn't have to... but that'd be one celebrity sex tape I'd love to see.
It'd prolly be like the uncensored "Industry Baby": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1EiP7QVNYY
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u/shadowveeeeeeerse 11d ago
Got me good.
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u/Kiri_serval 11d ago
That's Lil Nas for ya. (I fucking love his cheekiness!)
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u/shadowveeeeeeerse 11d ago
I also didn't notice that he himself put that out. lmao
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u/DarkQueen1312 10d ago
Guy's the first true zoomer celebrity. He understands how to troll and manipulate internet/meme culture better than most. Hell his whole 'country music is racist' thing was basically a massive troll with a layer of truth to it. As was the whole Call Me By Your Name video, ofc.
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u/_Aech_ 11d ago
Me replying to him: "3:45 AM? OK, I'll be there. Which McDonalds?"
Mmmmhhmmm.
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u/WarOtter 11d ago
Any McDonald's. He is actually the Flash, and can service someone at each location nearly simultaneously.
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u/ontopofyourmom 11d ago
I mean I'm not into dudes and I'd let him blow me behind a McDonald's, but I'd want it to have a 24 hr drive thru so we could hang out and eat burgers afterwards
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u/letseatdragonfruit 11d ago
Some people don’t think black people can be gay. This is true hence why biracial people can only be gay on odd number calendar days of the Gregorian calendar. /s
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u/geneticswag 11d ago
Well those people never spent anytime in the fucking New York house and disco scene.
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u/letseatdragonfruit 11d ago
Homophobes confuse me, like how “homosexuality is a European practice.” Idk why white people need to practice to be gay it’s not hard. /s On a serious note I’ve dated more black women than white women so it’s a little ironic to me.
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u/likwidchrist 11d ago
No that's true Jeffree star used to be black but when he came out God turned him white.
Nas got around this by becoming Satan's boyfriend. He made a music video about it
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u/unripenedboyparts 11d ago
He could cover himself in candied citron, mail himself to a despised relative, and this person would find a reason why he's not a "fruitcake."
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u/444unsure 10d ago
When my dad saw Neil Patrick Harris on TV, he made a comment about not liking him as much now that he is gay. I was kind of frustrated and asked why it mattered? He said it just does. I reiterated that I didn't understand how his personal life makes any difference as to whether you like an actor or not. My dad continued to Double Down by saying he likes Ellen DeGeneres less when she came out. And that he understands that my generation is different, but that's just how he feels
I then told him that I am gay. He was kind of confused, stunned? He was packing for a 3-week trip, not much else was said before he left. We didn't talk about it for months even after he got back. I found out from my brother though, that he cornered him in a private conversation to ask him if I was just fucking with him to try to win an argument. I was like seriously? You think it's more realistic that someone is going to pretend to be gay to win an argument, than that they are actually gay?
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u/anastasis19 10d ago
I'm bi. I've come out to my mum (and only her) after a few too many drinks on Christmas 2021 (spurned on by some of her homophobic comments). I made sure to reinforce my coming out the next day, stone cold sober. And still she's tried to tell me how homosexuality is a choice, and a disease of the mind, and that the LGBTs are just asking for too much with our fight for marriage equality and equality in general.
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u/Eddieslabb 11d ago
I've never understood why he is called Lil Network Attached Server.
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u/Lyralou 11d ago
Tenth of his name.
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u/HeyThereCharlie 11d ago
The Unratioed, King of All The Gays, Khal of the Great Twitter Sea, Breaker of Stereotypes and Father of Shitposts
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u/nastyjman 11d ago
And where was Lil Nas IX?
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u/Kichigai 11d ago
It sank into the swamp.
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u/Horrific_Necktie 11d ago
Not unlike lil Nas VIII, which burned down, fell over, and then sank into the swamp
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u/saichampa 11d ago
Do you mean network attached storage? I'm not sure a server would be very useful if it wasn't network attached
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u/LordDongler 11d ago
He was raised by a wild tribe of Cisco certified network engineers who happen to like very long socks
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u/SwitchGaps 11d ago
Before he was famous he used to run a Nicki Manaj fan page. Do we really need anymore proof than that??
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u/Alauren2 11d ago
Suspiciously specific
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u/tomdarch 11d ago
Like... why Chicago? Clearly I'm missing out on some fun at the McDonaldses around me by being straight....
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u/Alauren2 11d ago
Because he said he gave head at 3:45 am behind a mcdonalds in chicago on a friday night during the middle of pride month while streaming on twitch and ig live…Lol
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u/Bad_Hominid 11d ago
Which McDonald's?
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u/Schveen15 11d ago
I’m thinking the McDonald’s off Clark next to Wrigley Field (since there are no McDonalds in Northalsted/Boystown)
Alternatively, he can try the McDonald’s off Wilson and Sheridan (if he’s feeling dangerous)
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u/AlexKorobeiniki 11d ago
I’m sorry, but Montero is one of the gayest songs ever written, beaten only by OK2BGAY. What more do you want from him?
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u/yeswithaz 11d ago
Look, if being gay were that lucrative, a certain pop superstar who just started her tour would be out. 👀
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u/nastyjman 11d ago
I am so out of the loop. Which popstar is she?
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u/purpleplatapi 11d ago
Taylor Swift. She makes good music, but she's also really really good at marketing herself. So the joke is that if she thought she'd make more money being gay she would fake it.
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u/almost-archaeologist 11d ago
Wait didn’t he come out as bi a while ago ?
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u/fourangers 11d ago
... he's still part of the LGBTQ+ community if that's your question.
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u/almost-archaeologist 11d ago
I wasn’t implying that. I know that we bi people tend to use gay and queer when talking about our sexuality.
I was more asking people in the comments. Because people tend to call bi guys gay but in a more biphobic kind of way.
Not that I am calling people biphobic, I am just a tad confused
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u/SulkySideUp 11d ago
He didn’t even say gay so I’m extra confused. People just wanna be mad I guess.
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u/Wandering_Floof 11d ago
I think they were just confused that he was now saying “gay” instead of “bi”. I admittedly haven’t been following this much cuz I don’t listen to his music, but I would assume he’s just using gay here as shorthand for any queer identity as I know a lot of folks do
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u/SulkySideUp 11d ago
He didn’t say gay though. He said fruitcake.
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u/El_Panda_Rojo 11d ago
Can't queer people get a different kind of cake to represent us? Like why the absolute worst cake out there?
I know this isn't the point but I just wanna say that you probably only think that because you've never had actual GOOD fruitcake before. Real fruitcake - not that fucking awful store bought shit that tastes like cough syrup had a baby with rancid pears - is 10 fire emojis out of 10. Actual good well made fruitcake slays so fucking hard. It's a tragedy that most people are unwilling to try it because they've been understandably turned off by the horrible shit most people's families buy for holidays.
(Now, if you've had that and you STILL don't like fruitcake, then fair enough!)
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u/MisterPhD 11d ago
Pound cake is literally vanilla. How much more straight can you get?
“You wanna pound my cake, bro?”
Or
“You want to fruit my cake, bro?”
One is clearly more queer. :P
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u/Ed_Hastings 11d ago
I won’t stand for this vanilla slander, shit is delicious and stands on its own.
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u/flounder19 He/Him 11d ago edited 11d ago
Paying homage to stonewall with the cake most similar to a solid brick
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u/fourangers 11d ago
Yeah, idk, it just rubbed me in the wrong way. I've seen before biphobia in this community and as a bi person myself I get easily pissed off.
According to google, he confessed being a little bi. So that's cool!
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u/hugesloppycunt 11d ago
Here I thought bisexuals couldn’t be rubbed the wrong way
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u/ScyllaOfTheDepths 11d ago
Yep, same. I call myself a lesbian, date mostly women, but have gone out with some guys and would be open to the right guy. 5/6 on the Kinsey Scale.
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u/-Novowels- 11d ago
I (a dude) dated a lesbian once. We were good friends for about a year and it started getting more intimate and I legit sat down with her to apologize and tell her I needed some distance for a while because I was catching feelings and that wasn't fair to her. She mulled that over, looked at me and said "dont get too high on this but you might be on a very short list with Trent Reznor and Bowie" and then kissed me.
It was insane how poorly some of the people in her friend circle (other lesbians) treated her about it. I am bisexual myself and we had many discussions about sexuality and identity and what it meant for her (she would just identify as "queer" while we were dating).
Nas can be gay and still enjoy a hook up with a woman once in a while or he can be bi with a lopsided preference -- he just has to be himself! People are people, not strictly binary either/or robots.
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u/ScyllaOfTheDepths 11d ago
Yeah, I get shit on in queer spaces a lot for even suggesting that my sexuality might not be entirely rigid and inflexible and I do get it to some extent. Queer people have a long history of being treated like our sexualities are just temporary phases or Pop culture trends or mental illnesses that can be treated. That said, it's been known for such a long time that sexuality is a semifluid spectrum and I wish people would just get over it. Some people are just a little more flexible in their preferences.
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u/unripenedboyparts 11d ago
He said he's "a little bisexual," which isn't extremely uncommon for gay men. But he also promised it's the last time he's coming out so it does seem like he's identifying that way now.
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u/aka_jr91 11d ago
IDK, maybe be secretly whispers "no homo" when no one's watching 🤔 /s
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u/thatguy9684736255 11d ago
It's insane what people will think instead of realize that someone is gay
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u/rabbitqueer 11d ago
Name a more dedicated ally tbh like what a thoughtful man supporting the community like this
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u/RegalOlivia 11d ago
We're in a new era of Christian puritan thought where 50% of contemporary puritans believe that no real or fictional person is queer and never has been and the other 50% believe in the conspiracy that every single famous human, celebrity, and politician to have existed post World War 2 is secretly trans.
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u/Inspector_Tragic 11d ago
All this to avoid them funny feels they get cuz they cant get enough of this dude..lol
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u/Galigen173 11d ago
They're right in a way, he's bi not gay
The person he replied to probably doesn't think bi people are real though, they'd probably tell him to pick a side
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u/archer5810 11d ago
I’ll let you in on a secret: bi and pan people aren’t fully real. We are incomprehensible , quasi-real beings from the void between realities and beyond imagination that have created bodies within this universe and many others to move them towards our goals, far outside mortal ken.
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