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If my work computer has to connect to my home wifi in order to work like the rumors suggest, I won't be using them ever again. That's just ridiculous.
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u/Alone-Fuel-5531 Feb 02 '23
Netflix can't access any devices wifi settings. So their anti-password sharing method is just to scare people....and push them away.
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u/Muehevoll Feb 02 '23 edited Feb 02 '23
Apart from doubting that this is accurate information, they don't even need to access "wifi settings". They can just see that one user connects from another IP-address than all the *other users constantly.
Assuming blocking is indeed based on IP-addresses, then this new limitation can be circumvented by making all users connect through the same VPN though.
Edit: *typo
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u/Samurai_Sayjin Feb 02 '23
That was exactly my question how would they check if I am sharing my password?
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u/No_Stretch_3899 Feb 02 '23
That’s not how anything about the internet works, please shut up
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u/Alone-Fuel-5531 Feb 02 '23
Nice attitude..
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u/No_Stretch_3899 Feb 02 '23
Yeah I should just let you spread misinformation despite not knowing jack. Fuck off.
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u/Alone-Fuel-5531 Feb 02 '23
Not necessarily but I would assume you knew how to speak to others and showing you have manners and is able to tell people when they are wrong without sounding like you got personally attacked like a child. :)
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u/No_Stretch_3899 Feb 02 '23
I’m just the aggressive normally, I’m not upset. Call it a personal flaw but luckily idgaf
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u/RaspberryDugong Feb 02 '23
If we all cancel they will buckle
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u/SanctuaryMoon Feb 02 '23
They're going to be begging for password sharers to come back. Ain't nobody got 4 devices playing Netflix under one roof at the same exact time.
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u/herpderpomygerp Feb 02 '23
Yeah well it also fucks families and military people as well, nothing like being told "Netflix is for 1 house" but then they make you pay for extra screens anyway
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u/starryjuju Feb 02 '23
Also, what if people just move or change internet providers? Do you have to cancel your Netflix and resubscribe to have it linked to your new ip address?
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u/ACoolCanadianDude Feb 02 '23
iirc, their algorithm will recognize if different ips are used often. A couple events might not trigger it but if it’s almost constant they might restrict your account.
A public IP change is frequent on residential internet.
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u/TravelerThe01 Feb 02 '23
At this point it just looks they're purposely trying to kill Netflix.
A management can't be this dumb lol
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u/FrontwaysLarryVR Feb 02 '23
Surprisingly, they can be. Lol
Public companies have a legal obligation to their investors to try and grow their money, so if the Netflix execs just coasted and let the money flow in, then they could be voted out by the investors in some cases. Happened a few times at a company I used to work for, and they always put a yes-man in their place that'll do what they're told.
It's supremely broken, but that's how it all happens. Sometimes execs just trying to not get fired.
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u/nerlinhammy Feb 02 '23
That is broken Jesus Christ.
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u/FrontwaysLarryVR Feb 02 '23
I mean it makes sense to an extent. By definition, investors are investing so they can get something out of it. If the stock never goes up or down then they wasted their money.
Going public gets you money quickly that you need to expand, but then you become beholden to shit like this if you give up too much. Part of why Mark Zuckerberg can comfortably tank their Meta stock price is because he still holds majority shares and can flip off investors as much as he wants. lol
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u/StevieTheAussie92 Feb 02 '23
If you fly under a certain flag, you won’t need them to buckle. 🏴☠️
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u/legoace61 Feb 02 '23
Pirate bay: 📈
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u/creepergo_kaboom Dark Mode Elitist Feb 02 '23
Not the best place for pirating considering how even experienced pirates can fall prey to this site. Best is just combing through the pirating subreddit megathread for a good site
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u/legoace61 Feb 02 '23
Yeahh it's not the best but everyone knows it so it works for the purpose of a meme comment hahah
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u/creepergo_kaboom Dark Mode Elitist Feb 02 '23
True, sadly the site is now more of a fallen king considering the newer and better options
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u/icecubegone Feb 02 '23
Would you kindly share some good sites
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u/creepergo_kaboom Dark Mode Elitist Feb 02 '23
Like I said combing through the piracy subreddit megathread r/piracy is the best option. But one I currently use a website called moviestowatch.cc its got popup ads that evade my adblocker but their mobile app is my main movie app which hasn't failed me yet and it's got updates every month!
Edit: do not go to movies2watch.tv it's is merely a proxy but it's got a boatload of ads and even those hard to close ones
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u/ArcaneDanger Feb 02 '23
lookmovie2.to and soap2day.ma are good, not many ads
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u/creepergo_kaboom Dark Mode Elitist Feb 02 '23
Dunno about lookmovie but soap2day is very good for a variety of movies including non English movies but very bad for convenience in terms of speed and webpage layout
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u/wishmimeru Feb 02 '23
I'm gonna be kicked off of my family's Netflix because I live in a different state 🙃
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u/Alone-Fuel-5531 Feb 02 '23
Don't worry. It's just a scare technique. Netflix can't access wifi settings on devices.
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u/datalinklayer Feb 02 '23
Uhh they just look at the public IP and if there is a different device with different public IP then they kick it off. They don't need to look at "wifi" settings like wifi is the only networking that exists lol. Sounds like you are about to lose your Netflix.
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u/Alone-Fuel-5531 Feb 02 '23
And for those with dynamic IP addresses?
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u/Cascascap Feb 02 '23
Dynamic IP address still share a prefix
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u/Alone-Fuel-5531 Feb 02 '23
I see.
They say that "Every 31 days, your device must log in on your home Wi-Fi network or your account will be blocked.
Lets say I have an account and I'm sharing it with friends; how do they know where my home Wi-Fi network is?
When buying a subscription do they need address? I'm genuinely curious at this point.
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u/Cascascap Feb 02 '23
That's a more interesting question. They may average the numerous connections to find the "home" wifi. No idea.
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u/FrontwaysLarryVR Feb 02 '23
They'll probably default to the one you use the most, maybe? But that'll cause a lot of issues too...
It's all around just a reason to cancel. Only thing they'll listen to.
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u/Diegobyte Feb 02 '23
So?
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u/Badass-19 Stand With Ukraine Feb 02 '23
So he can't watch Netflix, not at least the account which their family uses. They have to buy another subscription plan since he can't be connected to the same WiFi. Thus, Netflix will just remove the current subscription
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u/Diegobyte Feb 02 '23
He can buy Netflix for his own house since he lives alone and is a big boy
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u/Raw-Snausage Feb 02 '23
I’m currently attending college in a state across the country from my parents. I am still a member of their household, that is still my permanent address, and I don’t see why going to school should stop my from using the family Netflix.
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u/Badass-19 Stand With Ukraine Feb 02 '23
That's the point!! Why should he? Netflix just wants this to happen.
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u/Diegobyte Feb 02 '23
Does he use the internet and cable from his parents house too?
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u/Badass-19 Stand With Ukraine Feb 02 '23
Does the internet and cable allow their services to share initially and then suddenly change decision because they want more money?
But not gonna lie, that was really a very good counter point. I had to think a bit. Kudos for that
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u/Diegobyte Feb 02 '23
Netflix never really allowed sharing they just didn’t enforce it. It was always described as a single household in the terms
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u/Badass-19 Stand With Ukraine Feb 02 '23
Netflix was very proud when they introduced this. Like how PS users could share games. Netflix even advertised "Sharing is Caring" But eventually, things turned
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u/Kefalp Feb 02 '23
My brother in Christ they literally used to boast about password sharing as a thing Netflix offers. There are old Tweets which some are thrown around atm.
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u/ObviouslyMartin Feb 02 '23
Are you some Kind of Idiot?
Lets say, for example you had bought Something for you and your partner/SO and you Always share IT but now the one you bought it from says you can't share it. You both now have to buy it individually. Wouldn't that be kind of stupid and/or money hungry?
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u/Diegobyte Feb 02 '23
No cus it’s not your account. It was nice when you could use it for free but now that has come to an end. If you live with your SO you wouldn’t have to buy it twice.
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u/Admirable-Leather325 Feb 02 '23
Then what's the point of multiple device streaming?
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u/ZenSlicer9 Feb 02 '23
So that you take your phone when you take a shit and watch from there without skipping a beat. That will be $9.99, thank you
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u/I-Iobbi Feb 02 '23
I dont want to defend them im here just to say not every one lives alone in the house.
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u/fluxximus Feb 02 '23
So you can still watch on your own devices on holiday ? Or when travelling for work. Or even at a friend or family member their house. As long as the device casting it ( e.g.: your phone ) connects to your wifi at one point.
You're saying it like you can't watch outside of your house anymore. You can. The device just needs to connect to your home wifi at one point. In 30 days.
I'm not defending it.
I'm just clarifying that even a college student can watch the parents their Netflix when their off to college, as long as they visit home once a month with that device.
It does mostly harm people sharing accounts. Military personnel living abroad for several months are f*cked though. :(
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u/YogaJoeXD memer Feb 02 '23
I think that if you are on a holiday you have to ask Netflix for a code to access your account which will be active for 7 days. Don’t know what happens if your holiday is longer than 7 days.
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u/DefinitelyNotAliens Feb 02 '23
It's 31, then a 7 day code. Except I have traveled longer than that for work, and some people have vacation homes they never connect to a home wifi, or are military, or are snowbirds and move for winter, or are tech nomads
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u/KickFacemouth Feb 02 '23
As a military member currently away form home overseas... fuck me, right?
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u/WhatWeirdWindow Feb 02 '23
Pay for a subscription. It’s not that hard.
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u/LazyCasual0alt Feb 02 '23
Yeah but if his device doesnt log into his home wifi once evert 31 days it gets the boot. And if he isn’t home at least once every 31 days he’s fucked
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u/KickFacemouth Feb 03 '23
I already do. I have a family at home who uses it. I'm not paying for two subscriptions because a bunch of investors flipped out when a company had one bad quarter.
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u/Any_Brother7772 Birb Fan Feb 02 '23
The moment when Amazon Prime is actually better now, allows password sharing, good shows like the boys, gives you free shipping ontop, plus twitch prime and for less money aswell
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u/foefyre Feb 02 '23
If you double the price and lose half of the subscribers than you make the same money with half the effort
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u/vezol RageFace Against the Machine Feb 02 '23
IF they just lose half the subs, yes. Also, the streaming market isn‘t just Netflix. There are tons of other companies just waiting for Netflix to make such bad decisions, so they can fish more subs with offers. All in all, they made a terrible long term decision.
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u/pantherghast Feb 02 '23
They probably did the math and most likely worked out to that they would have less subscribers but generate more revenue. I haven't had Netflix for over 2 years, they butchered my favorite show (Altered Carbon) with season 2. But companies need to make decisions based on what generates the most profit and revenue.
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u/antares127 Feb 02 '23
Altered carbon s1 was so fucking good. I saw the reviews and ratings of s2 and didn’t even bother
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u/pantherghast Feb 02 '23
It is worse than any review could convey. The anime was pretty good though. Watched it with a few friends at their place.
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u/Nopengnogain Feb 02 '23
Actually revenue would go down with lower subscriber count, but profit will probably increase because Netflix likely pays hundreds of millions, if not more, on server cost annually. That number will be drastically lower without all the shared accounts.
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u/SurealGod Feb 02 '23
Netflix's Guide to Corporate Suicide:
- Stop making good original content
- Cancel any original content that's good
- Create bad original content and have them keep going perpetually instead of the good content
- Prevent your users from sharing their accounts and using VPN access
- Price hike the shit out of your service with every passing year
- Repeat the above steps until bankruptcy is achieved
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u/SurealGod Feb 02 '23
I don't know why it's so hard for business executives to understand.
If you make your content easier to use, easier to access and cheaper than the competition, no one is going to pirate shit or go elsewhere, they'll just use your platform.
We're inherently lazy and much like electricity, we will take the path of least resistance.
At the moment, all streaming services are fucking us in the ass, so OF COURSE we're going to go back to pirating.
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u/makinbaconCR Feb 02 '23
Wouldn't that mean more people have to buy subs?
Problem is the content is struggling and competition fierce.
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u/OneTurnsToNone Feb 02 '23
I think the reason most people password share is because they wouldn't have it otherwise, like from experience most people borrow an account cause they wanna watch like one thing coming out, if they can't share I feel most people will just say oh well, not buy an account to watch it
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u/Tanked6 Feb 02 '23
I currently use my Mom’s account. If I get banned she’ll drop down to basic (1 screen) and I will torrent more. I don’t see this plan working out for them
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u/VexeenBro Feb 02 '23
You are forgetting that Netflix locks 4K behind the most expensive plan. I've decided to cancel my subscription as soon as this goes live, because with maybe 3-4 exceptions a year there is nothing to watch there anyway. I don't care for teen dramas and Bollywood productions and if I want to watch occasional gem - like Stranger Things or Wednesday I will pay for one month and watch it during that time. I shared the account with my parents and my SO'a parents and sister. None of them watched Netflix regularly, which means they do not have any incentive to buy a subscription either. So the thing that comes from this change is instead of having 4 accounts subscribe instead of 1, Netflix will have 0. Obviously that's only us, people are different and some may change to more subs or additional fee for sharing, but I know we won't. And recently I've been watching much more on Prime and Disney anyway.
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u/Separate-Ad-9267 Feb 02 '23
In all their earnings calls over the last year, Netflix has been losing subscriptions. The rest is speculation on why it's happening. Most likely, the public is right.
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u/makinbaconCR Feb 02 '23
Well the move to stop sharing came after the downturn. Which one. The pandemic made everything grow. Two the stock market is a terrible terrible machine that only cares about growth.
They still have the most by alot
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u/CrustyJuggIerz Feb 02 '23
Do you think people will boycott, or inevitably get their own account?
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u/gdude131313 Feb 02 '23
Most will try regardless, then most likely a short term boycott. My wife and I canceled our account because they wanted 40$ per month. I get far more entertainment from my 8$ Crunchyroll account than I ever did Netflix.
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u/CrustyJuggIerz Feb 02 '23
40 a month?!
Just get a Firebox, if they're still called that. One time payment of 500, all streaming services, forever. Well until servers shut down.
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u/gdude131313 Feb 02 '23
My dad had a thing called a "firestick" where he got all streaming stuff, but it only lasted for like 8 months before it stopped working.
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u/Romberstonkins Feb 02 '23
Honestly they are loosing on their content. Like they had all that time on resident evil and literally made it completely just shit.
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Feb 02 '23
They are going to lose a lot of viewership just from people getting cut off. Making lots of their ratings go down or at least not get as high. How is this going to effect them making new shows and movies?
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Feb 02 '23
So I have to log in into my friends wifi to prove my pc isnt sharing the password? I guess I wont be using netflix anymore and she also wont because she mostly has it because of me.
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u/PyraAlchemist Feb 02 '23
Streaming while travelling is just not a thing apparently? Streaming while over seas working for your family? I don’t understand the Netflix brass. They just cancel great shows and pump out garbage. I’ve been watching prime way more recently and only go to Netflix for a few shows that I could easily pirate.
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u/Sanzera Feb 02 '23
I have a conspiracy theory. Netflix is trying to devalue it self to a point where Microsoft purchases them for under 100B
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u/genkidin Feb 02 '23
Couldn't they just do device limiting ? Like register only 1 or 2 devices that can use the service at a time ?
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u/Trelefor Feb 02 '23
They already do. People were already paying to use more devices to password share. They're shooting themselves in the foot almost literally.
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u/genkidin Feb 02 '23
Oh dam ! Puts on Netflix ?
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u/Trelefor Feb 02 '23
No idea what that means
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u/pieeater322 Feb 02 '23
Just remember wizards of the coast thought that DND was "under monetized". Company's do be a bit dumb.
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u/Hades_Nightmare Feb 02 '23
I'm just waiting for another price increase. No matter how small, I'm leaving
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u/AaronDarkus Feb 02 '23
If the objective is to destroy the company, then they are doing a fucking excellent job.
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Feb 02 '23
They didn't lose people for that, that went after the lost of people, the reason is they only do/buy stuff to appeal to 1 demographic unlike back them. Just look at Wednesday, they turned a 180 on the character to make a show a self insert for they "OMG I'm so different" 14yo girls, the only people that still pays for netflix
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u/Human_Frame1846 Feb 02 '23
Netflix is a dumpster fire for and made for college kids change my mind
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u/Ney_2602 Feb 02 '23
Capitalism
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u/SanctuaryMoon Feb 02 '23
I mean yeah. It seems like every industry is in a race to lower quality while increasing prices as much as possible. Streaming has quickly become cable.
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u/fazdetsu Feb 02 '23
I dont think they are losing much. Because the people who got the Account per Account sharing did never pay anything. So These people would buy an own Account or just leave it. (Hopefully somebody understands me, my dumb ass cant explain better)
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u/iLuvUV Feb 02 '23
Well they were losing tons of money to password sharers and it is also a crime. I dont get why all of reddit is mad about this. If u were netflix would u let people watch for free??
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u/KrulRudy Professional Dumbass Feb 02 '23
How exactly did they kill the password sharing? Like how are they preventing it?
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u/Khaos_Gorvin Feb 02 '23
Netflix cancels good shows
Netflix: Didn't work either!