r/shittymoviedetails • u/HarryShachar • 11d ago
In Endgame (2019) Tony Stark repeats the line "No amount of money ever bought a second of time", while just a hours beforehand he used his great resources as a bajillionaire (bought with money) to time travel and eventually, meet his dad again.
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u/Wraith8888 11d ago
In reality money buys tons of time. Freedom from work. Time spent with family, hobbies etc. In addition more years of life because you have access to top tier healthcare, high quality nutrition and a life free of debilitating pain from decades of physical labor.
The people telling you money can't buy happiness or time are gaslighting you.
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u/Time-Werewolf-1776 11d ago
If you have enough money, you can pay people to do things for you, freeing up tons of time for yourself.
You can book nonstop flights instead of a cheaper flight that includes a layover, and get to your designation hours earlier.
If there’s one thing money can buy, it’s time.
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u/VanillaLifestyle 11d ago
They literally don't have chores. Think about how much of your waking life is spent on grocery shopping, cooking, dishes, laundry, tidying, cleaning, driving to the store, driving a family member somewhere, doing DIY projects around the house, financial admin, healthcare admin. Childcare!
There's a spectrum of income where you can gradually pay for some of these tasks to be done to some degree, and at a certain level of wealth, literally none of it exists.
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u/throwaway_5256 11d ago
That shit is literally just a buzzphrase used by loaded people who can't handle the idea of people criticizing their wealth and want to seem relatable. Yeah, being rich doesn't save you from every stress in life. It's also much easier to handle that when you can drop everything and go on a month long vacation to the Bahamas instead of having to go work min wage all week
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u/VibraniumRhino 11d ago
“They say ‘money can’t buy happiness!’ Do you live in America? Because it buys a Wave Runner. You ever seen a sad person on a Wave Runner? Seriously have you? Try to frown on a Wave Runner… they’re so awesome, it’s just throttle! People smile as they hit the pier.”
Daniel Tosh, Completely Serious (2007)
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u/RegularWhiteShark 11d ago
You don’t even have to be rich. Just rich enough. Like yeah, it doesn’t literally buy happiness but how much depression and anxiety is brought about by wondering if you have enough to keep a roof over your head or food? Or stress from working all hours you can and getting next to nothing in return and leaving no time for taking care of yourself.
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u/CompostAcct 10d ago
Seriously. The wife and I combined aren't anywhere near "fuck you" money, but the fact that we don't have to worry about rent, food, doctor's visits, car repair, etc is, all by itself, probably 90% of the stress we'd otherwise be dealing with.
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u/Don_Gato1 11d ago
I don't think money necessarily buys happiness but it sure can eliminate a lot of sources of unhappiness.
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u/Hexcraft-nyc 11d ago
I got a hell of a lot happier making $30 an hour compared to $7 I can tell you that much
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u/DudleysCar 11d ago
The best way I've heard this explained is that money doesn't buy you happiness, but it does buy you options, and the more options you have, the happier you can be.
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u/Scarborough_sg 11d ago edited 11d ago
And never underestimate people taking the stupid option. Especially the rich ones.
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u/RedditIsNeat0 11d ago
Kind of like how Elon or JK would probably be happier if they got therapy instead of obsessing over hate and shitposts but they take the stupid option instead?
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u/NotAmericanMate 11d ago
Not really.
They could be happier, sure.
But with their money, they're a shit load happier than a kid in Africa digging through rubbish heaps looking for metal.
Money bought that happiness.
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u/Cyberzombie23 11d ago
Bad things happen whether you have money or not, but money will take care of quite a large part of those problems as they come up.
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u/zxyzyxz 11d ago
In lots of third world countries, average people can also employ people for chores. It's pretty cheap there if you're middle class.
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u/Orkfreebootah 11d ago edited 11d ago
Third world countries is an outdated term used to show who supported the soviets and who supported america after WW2. Its one of those terms that got outdated and dropped from use due to it not being accurate and being incredibly classist
Downvoting for informing people a term is outdated and classist? Good to know. Enjoy being behind most of the world.
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u/MediocreHope 11d ago
Words change? You know exactly what they meant.
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u/Orkfreebootah 11d ago
…why do you think i took the time to explain its an outdated term? To help people understand its not used anymore so more people stop using the outdated terminology that was just propaganda.
People take information as personal attacks way too often. It’s fine to not know things and to let people inform you of things you may not have realized. You dont have to take it so personally. The person i responded to clearly doesn’t know so it wasn’t meant for you if you already knew.
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u/MediocreHope 11d ago
why do you think i took the time to explain its an outdated term? To help people understand its not used anymore so more people stop using the outdated terminology that was just propaganda.
Why do you think I took the time to explain to you that terminology changes and the person I responded to (you, if you hadn't noticed) clearly doesn't know what it meant.
Terms change, what do you want us to call them? Underdeveloped? Less-developed? Poor? Lacking of economical growth?
I think "You can still get house keeping in a third world country" is a lot more polite than saying "Hey, if you work middle class you can go to a poor place and get poor people to do all that shit work for you for pennies on the dollar" that the OP was trying to say.
I find "third world" a lot more classy because you can use the term to mean political alignment than saying your people are "Undeveloped" as is the current nomenclature but you do you
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u/Stepbackrelax 11d ago
People take information as personal attacks way too often. It’s fine to not know things and to let people inform you of things you may not have realized. You dont have to take it so personally.
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u/__methodd__ 11d ago
The Uber rich seem to take this concept way too far with a full staff of people working to maintain their home and weirdest of all, au pairs and boarding schools*
I'd rather spend time with my kids and avoid managing a micro company just to keep up with my extremely unnecessary lifestyle. I mean I'm sure once you get a full night's sleep with the au pair taking care of your baby at night, it's impossible to go back. It just feels like paying money to trade quality time for work time.
- Looking at you Molly Weasley. You do magic for chores. Your kids are away at school for 9 months. Arthur works. She is apparently a very strong wizard as well. What you doing all day?? Why's your house suck? (The Burrow is charming don't get me wrong but the Weasleys are pretty poor considering one of them does zilch for 75% of the year.)
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u/grchelp2018 11d ago
Luckily we're headed to a world where automation will end up doing all these things so we'll have plenty of time on our hands.
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u/Firewolf06 11d ago
You can book nonstop flights instead of a cheaper flight that includes a layover, and get to your designation hours earlier.
also those flights leave exactly when your ready. you get to the airport at 3:23, and the plane is rolling at 3:27
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u/Znaffers 11d ago
Literally just Ez pass lanes are a great example. If you can afford that extra 10-15 dollars a day you’re saving yourself an hour or 2 of your time
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u/Stepbackrelax 11d ago edited 11d ago
Not totally related but I fly a lot and I've learned to appreciate layovers because you dont need to poop on a plane, you can eat ground food instead of air food, and you can stretch your legs. 8+ hours is way too long to be sitting in a cabin even in first class. I don't think nonstop flights are necessarily superior every single time.
edit: Yall are acting like theres one objective truth for air travel, lol. People can appreciate different things.
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u/MasterGrok 11d ago
I’m surprised you travel a lot and think this. Having a layover literally doubles your chances of having a late or cancelled flight. And the more you travel the more you appreciate reducing any chance for a cancelled flight which is an enormous pain in the ass.
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u/Phytanic 11d ago
I've done 16 hour flights and tbh by then adding 2 hours to the flight makes little difference, but adding a layover is an absolute PITA
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u/SnowGree 11d ago
Something tells me you've actually never been on an eight hour flight on first class. I was in business (not even first!) on a transatlantic 8-hour flight. Shit is wild. Someone greets you by name and takes your coat when you get on the plane. The seat reclines into a bed more comfortable than my college dorm bed. Noise canceling headphones. A screen bigger than my laptop's (not that I would have cared about the battery, there were two power plugs). Unlimited champaign. Actually good food. Sorry, but I wouldn't have minded spending even more time in that cabin rather than dealing the mess called "boarding" twice.
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u/Inspector_Robert 11d ago
Money can't buy you happiness.
It can however be spent on things that make you happy.
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u/VaderSkywalker2007 11d ago
Antidepressants /s
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u/NullPro 11d ago
Put that damn /s away before i whoop yo ass. We all serious here on reddit
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u/VaderSkywalker2007 11d ago
Sorry. Anyway, do you want to have a civilized political discussion on the war between Ukraine and Russia?
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u/NullPro 11d ago
Gladly
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u/VaderSkywalker2007 11d ago
Cool. Let me start by putting out my controversial opinion: “Russia bad, Zelensky chad.”
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u/FluffPeddler 11d ago
My pet peeve is how that phrase has been misused so much. "Money can't buy happiness" is meant to be a critique for people who hoard wealth like dragons, not for the average workers. Money absolutely makes life better, up to a point
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u/MasterGrok 11d ago
Yes. There are also people in this thread who take the counterpoint too far. Yes it’s true that money can afford you happiness but it is also true that a lot of people go through life unnecessarily obsessed with money and work at the risk of their family and favorite things. And this is of course understanding that every situation is different and some people are forced to do that.
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u/chester-hottie-9999 11d ago
Yea I make a what I consider a lot of money and it doesn’t make me happy. I work a lot at a job that’s not “terrible” but not satisfying, spending my money on shit just to distract me from the fact that i’m generally unsatisfied with life.
Does money buy momentary pleasure? Yes.
Does money help you remove problems that cause stress? Yes.
Does money make you happy? Nope. If you’re not happy without money you likely won’t be happy with money either.
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u/NotAmericanMate 11d ago
This is ridiculous.
Quit.
Give all your money away.
Be homeless.
I bet you a years wage of "a lot of money" vs a single cent, you will be a lot less happy than you are now.
But you won't. Because you know I'm right.
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u/Mr-Zero-Fucks 11d ago
money can't buy happiness, but it can buy products and services that make you happy
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u/ArchWaverley Why didn't the eagles ride the hobbits to Mordor? 11d ago
Ask the poor man, he'll no doubt
But he'd rather be miserable with than without
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u/Shamrock5 11d ago
The people telling you money can't buy happiness or time are gaslighting you.
That's not gaslighting, that's called "lying".
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u/ArchWaverley Why didn't the eagles ride the hobbits to Mordor? 11d ago
Reddit trying not to water down the real meaning of gaslighting challenge [IMPOSSIBLE]
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u/RealLarwood 11d ago
There are heaps of words like this. I think it's a combination of people wanting to sound smarter, and people not knowing how to convey how serious something is/how angry it makes them with the words available to them.
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u/DctNostradamus 11d ago
Money can't buy happiness in the sense that you can be fabulously wealthy and still be sad or depressed. It can fix the stress/unhappiness that comes from being broke though.
It's better to cry in a Bentley than on a bus
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u/SirKazum 11d ago
I think what's a pretty consistent conclusions from various studies and such is that money can't buy happiness past a certain point. Or, as I like to put it, it's not that money brings happiness, it's that a lack of money does bring sadness. When you're struggling to support yourself and your family, having to worry about food, not able to take care of medical expenses etc. then money does correlate pretty well with quality of life and ultimately happiness. But, past the point where you and your family are comfortable and have all your needs taken care of, then yes, additional money is indeed known to not change your happiness level significantly, at least not over the long run (anyone tends to be immediately happy when they get richer, but it evens out relatively quickly). As for time, though, no shit, money very easily buys that, and it's a really drastic effect.
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u/FlingFlamBlam 11d ago
All of the "money can't buy"-isms are said by people who already bought everything that they could with the overwhelming amount of money that they have. The dollar amount at which "money can't buy <thing>" is going to be different for various things.
Really the saying ought to be something like "money can't buy <thing> beyond X amount", but that wouldn't have the same ring to it.
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u/RiledAstaldo 11d ago
They’re not absolute statements or essays on a concept unfortunately.
Obviously money affords you the ability to choose more free time, the implication of the statement in the post is, “spending most of the years of your life chasing more money will not suddenly afford you the choice to go back in time and reacquire the events and moments you passed on in the pursuit of money.”
Which is very similar to the general idea behind the money quote.
And I’m not discounting the criticism of the phrase because I 100% get it, just been seeing for years what seems less like upset or cynical criticism or even just the comedy of criticizing it… with what seems like a 100% belief it’s always been nothing but an entirely ignorant and dumb concept with no worthwhile conveyed meaning aside from a false statement or at worst an intentionally misleading statement
Rich people can be depressed or miserable, money can’t literally buy you the joy of a good friend or family. You can’t go out and directly purchase joy or loved ones or the satisfaction of a good hobby, etc.
Even though obviously it makes being in those moments much easier.
It’s a simplistic phrase that when not viewed cynically is made to reassure and remind people that life shouldn’t be focused all about money even when money is at the forefront of your mind because it would solve so many problems.
I wish I had a hell of a lot more money, but the phrases are not that complicated to understand.
It’s just the approach of, “yeah I see what you’re trying to convey” vs. “fuck you, money does worry me and the sentiment is bullshit because I’m going to keep worrying about it.”
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u/ScyllaOfTheDepths 11d ago
There's also something to be said for the mental toll of having to jealously guard every dollar you have, afraid to take even the slightest financial risk because not having $30 could fuck your whole life. The burden of constantly budgeting and struggling is just crushing. I'm very happy to no longer be poor. My mental health was in the toilet just from the stress of always having to cut back and be frugal. I no longer just randomly break down crying.
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u/WhateverIts69 11d ago
Billionaires like this trick and then tell the world that they do hard work every day
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u/Wraith8888 11d ago
Billionaires: "Money can't buy happiness"
"Oh. Then could I have some of it to pay for my kid's cancer treatments? Because I'm pretty sure I'd be happier if my kid didn't have cancer."
"No"
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u/ChimpBottle 11d ago
In the way he means it, that's not really giving you more time though. Just allowing you to spend it doing something more preferable. You're spot on about the medical accessibility though
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u/just-cuz-i 11d ago
If you’re unhappy without money, more money will help. If you’re unhappy with money, more money will not help, but now you can’t imagine any other solution.
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u/eleetpancake 11d ago
The quote should be something like:
"Having more money has diminishing returns on your happiness beyond a million dollars or so."
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u/ivanchovv 11d ago
The people telling you money can't buy happiness or time are gaslighting you.
I wish! Gas is so expensive.
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u/Ksradrik 11d ago
Money is the fuel for happiness.
Some people fail to use it properly, but saying its irrelevant is the same as saying cars could drive without gasoline if they tried hard enough.
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u/FlighingHigh 11d ago
Money can't buy extra time is what they mean to say. Once your clock expires, no amount of money can prolong that, but inside of that you have plenty of time to play with before it's gone.
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u/Wraith8888 11d ago
But it can buy extra time. Money can prolong your life, dramatically
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u/FlighingHigh 11d ago
It can't. You can have all the money in the world, once your time comes none of that number in your bank account will save you. When you're out of time, you're out. Otherwise all the wealthy people of yesterday would still be kicking around.
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u/Wraith8888 11d ago
You're proposing that we all have a predetermined time of death. That's bullshit. Sure even the richest person could be hit by a car tomorrow but overall money absolutely can prolong your life by decades. A regular health check will spot that clogged coronary artery. Quality food keeps you healthy. When you do come down with the disease affording any and all treatment is a huge boon. You don't have a preset date of your death.
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u/grchelp2018 11d ago
With the amount of funding going into anti-aging stuff, this could end being even more true.
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u/FlighingHigh 11d ago
You don't have a predetermined time of death, but you have a finite lifetime and it will end one day, and nothing you do, nor amount of money you have can stop it. Even if you never left your house and never put yourself at risk of danger, you will die, without fail.
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u/PeachCream81 11d ago
No, money does not necessarily = happiness. But money (having lots of it) is a necessary but insufficient condition to happiness.
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u/Shenanigan_LP 11d ago
Likely unpopular, as I know it's very easy to "um, actually" this line, but I presume what he meant was:
"If you spend your whole life in the pursuit of financial gain and the management thereof, you can't then spend that money to get back the moments you could've had with family & friends if the time was spent otherwise."
Less pithy, I guess.
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u/mattomic822 11d ago
It is. It was also him repeating something his father said to him.
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u/Chonch_Bag 11d ago
But the time travel makes it to where his father was just repeating something that he heard from a stranger (his son) in the past. So who really created the phrase originally?
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u/Deferential_dreams 11d ago
Howard originally said the phrase to his son in the original timeline. He either made it up or heard it someone (other than from future Tony). In the second timeline, Howard heard it from future Tony, who himself heard it from Howard in the original timeline.
Or we could use the LOST time travel rules where Tony is always the one who originally told Howard, but that’s only because Howard would have told Tony as a kid even if Tony hadn’t traveled back in time. Whatever happened happened.
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u/Chonch_Bag 11d ago
Right, but there isn't an original timeline in this instance. It's a continuous chain of Tony going back and telling Howard who then tells his child who then grows up to go back in time. Whatever happened happened and has always happened.
You can't really say that Howard would have told Tony as a kid even if Tony hadn't traveled back in time because Tony DID travel back in time. We wouldn't know what would've happened otherwise because it didn't happen.
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u/TwoBlackDots 11d ago edited 11d ago
MFW the movie has two 5 minute scenes explicitly explaining how the time travel works and both of the people arguing still think you can alter the past.
The past they travel to is not their universe’s past. It is another universe’s past.
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u/phoenixmusicman 10d ago
Right, but there isn't an original timeline in this instance. It's a continuous chain of Tony going back and telling Howard who then tells his child who then grows up to go back in time. Whatever happened happened and has always happened.
I still don't understand how people still fuck this up. The movie literally makes it crystal clear that you cannot alter the future by changing the past. It even uses this chance to poke fun at Back to the Future.
No, this isn't how it works, because in the MCU, going back in time does not alter the timeline in any way shape or form, it simply creates a new universe.
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u/Deferential_dreams 11d ago
We know Howard would have told Tony, though, because otherwise there's a causality paradox. Therefore it must be the case.
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u/mrlbi18 11d ago
Hes also saying this to his Dad who doesn't have time travel. Tony wants his dad to spend time with him instead of dedicating all of his time to work.
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u/Shenanigan_LP 11d ago
Pretty much. I don't think anyone would pass up the opportunity to remind their mostly-absent workaholic Dad to spend more time at home before the fact, given the chance.
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u/Due-Studio-65 11d ago
He literally made a billion dollars to go back in time to talk to his father. I'd argue that there is a precise amount of money and hardwork that gives you back time with your family, and Tony has it.
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u/CakeNStuff 11d ago edited 11d ago
Nah, I cannot believe that your comment was the intention when they chose to make the guy with literal wealth as a superpower say this line. It’s way too on the nose even if they were going for the easiest most hollow platitude they could.
This was 100% either intentionally bad writing just because they couldn’t be damned to do something else or it’s a joke at our expense.
Either way there’s no good intention here and it certainly doesn’t line up with your comment.
There is nothing added or gained by having this character say this sentence. He’s just repeating an empty plot point from his father from earlier in the movie. It’s not that deep.
Honestly? Chad Disney here for finally owning it if they did this for real with intention.
“Yeah, you could have saved your parents from the cancer if you just had more money to go out of network to better specialists.”
edit: okay, maybe this was a little saucy because I like the comics and the idea of the MCU but have grown to hate Disney and how they’ve handled the series.
The TL;DR from my semi-coherent rants down below is that wealth is always at the forefront of the character of Tony Stark. The plot of Ironman 2 was this exact point: Tony Stark is depressed and becomes a recluse due to the weight of his wealth and power only to be snapped out of it by re-discovering that his wealth and power are essential to his impact as a hero. This ultimately drives him too far to the other extreme in Age of Ultron.
Saying, “well, money never bought anyone more time anyway” is spitting in the face of the point of the character. The whole point of Stark’s wealth is that it’s both a compliment and foil to his genius.
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u/NecessaryUnusual2059 11d ago
Yeah you’re reading too much into it
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u/CakeNStuff 11d ago
Nah I think I’m reading into this children’s movie just enough thank you very much.
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u/SexyTimeDoe 11d ago
Why you heff to be mad?
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u/CakeNStuff 11d ago
Because Cailou just came on Nick Jr and I hate this bald headed fucker.
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u/dovar72064 11d ago
There is nothing added or gained by having this character say this sentence. He’s just repeating an empty plot point from his father from earlier in the movie. It’s not that deep.
Come on, my dude. This is the last movie of Tony Stark and the culmination of all his character growth to that point. The character has specifically grown from being concerned about his own success and criticizing his father's shortcomings to now caring only about his family and accepting his father as a flawed human.
And--as for the point of this whole post-- it's wrapped up in a piece of dramatic irony.
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u/Zealousideal-Crow814 11d ago
When people ask what an average redditor is, I’m going to point to this comment.
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u/JDraks 11d ago
they chose to make the guy with literal wealth as a superpower say this line.
He also went off into the woods with his family to live a normal life earlier in this movie
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u/3DPrintedBlob 11d ago
Bruh he's probably not working at all and his wife either there's nothing "normal" about his "life in the woods"
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u/CakeNStuff 11d ago
Thanks for reminding me that this was already done in Iron Man 2 with disastrous results. (Both in the plot and writing).
There was literally no reason Disney had to choose this platitude in this movie.
For Goddsake the whole point of the character Tony Stark is to show that money does buy you more time. This is hammered over and over again throughout the plot whole series.
Tony Stark invented the Arc Reactor but he was only able to implant it in himself and utilize it because of his wealth.
Tony Stark invented the Ironman Suit with a box of scraps but was only able to utilize it because of his wealth.
Civil War only started because Tony Stark had the funds available to finance a massive army and the infrastructure to create the Ultron program.
The twins in Infinity War are penniless and though powerful are ultimately victims of their poverty and the wealth of others. They almost lose their lives to a missile sold by wealthy weapons billionaire Stark.
It’s anti-thetical to the core of the character: he is using is wealth to buy himself and others more time.
Could you imagine fucking Spider-Man saying, “Great Power has never helped anyone it was always about your intention and how you handle your responsibilities.”
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u/Delicious_Subject_91 11d ago
Has he never heard of maids? Yo, you pay someone else to clean your house, and boom, you got 4 spare hours now.
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u/Chradamw 11d ago
I’m guessing he used robots
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u/Wraith8888 11d ago
Those usually cost money also
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u/itchy_bitchy_spider 11d ago
Ngl the idea of a robot maid kinda bricks me up
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u/DoesntMatterBrian 11d ago
Sit down, son. Let me tell you a little story about a bot called Roomba.
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u/MediocreHope 11d ago
Which cost RD, paying people, parts...I mean money?
Literally having money to pay your company to create you a robo-cook and cleaner is money buying you time.
Cause you know what I don't have? The money to not spend the time on doing that stuff automatically.
So yeah, having robot cleaner money would save me some time in life and I'm not talking shitty knockoff Roomba money where it get's stuck in 10 minutes type of money.
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u/ArriveRaiseHellLeave 11d ago
But the time he spent away from his timeline’s gone.
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u/leopard_tights 11d ago
In Endgame the amount of time you spend in another timeline isn’t equal to the amount that passes in your original timeline. In the first test they send Antman back for an hour, but only 10 seconds pass in the prime timeline. When they actually all go back, they all spend different amounts of time but come back at the same time.
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u/NaturalPea5 11d ago
I think what they may mean is that from Antman or whoever’s travelings perspective, nothing changes in the flow of time. So there will be time dilation or contraction from the view of observers but Antmans biological body will age at the same constant rate either way, as from its frame of reference it always remains at rest and the time around it appears to contract/dilate
You can never change your own local measurement of the flow of time it will always be constant (speed of light remains the same, basically)
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This isn't an Endame thing. This is a time travel thing. They're literally traveling through time.
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u/Taograd359 11d ago
That’s not how time travel works. He could just go back in time to right when he left and get that time back.
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u/scjross 11d ago
But he’s still lost time, as in seconds/minutes/hours of his life, while time traveling. Upon return to his original timeline, even if he reappears an instant after he departed, he has less time to spend in that timeline.
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u/Anagoth9 11d ago
Time travel won't give him more years of life, but upgrading his heart certainly did.
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u/Jay_Hawker_12021859 11d ago
So Back to the Future's a bunch of bullshit?
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u/Rehypothecator 11d ago
Absolutely. If you go back in time and have a chance to bang your hot mom when she’s younger and get away with it, do it.
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u/unique-name-9035768 11d ago •
Scientists refer to this as "doing the nasty in the pasty".
Or maybe they're just relatives of scientists.
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u/lovesducks 11d ago
If anything Endgame gave you carte blanche to do this because, as they explained, it wouldn't really be your mom. Its your "mom" from another timeline/universe.
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u/iThatIsMe 11d ago
So again, just add more money during a portion of time with the appropriate surgeons/tech, and he's right back to nigh-unlimited time.
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u/HarryShachar 11d ago
Just to be pedantic, they did literally de-age Antman.
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u/suitedcloud 11d ago
“Instead of pushing Scott through time, you pushed time through Scott.”
Geewiz that sure sounds like a potential way to become immmortal by de aging yourself every decade. Just go to the prime of your physical body, wait it out, and do it all over again
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u/grokthis1111 11d ago
didn't the time travel device also let them deage people? didn't they deage antman or whoever and hulk says he'll grow?
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u/O-4 11d ago
Wouldn't he be older / have spent the same amount of his time had he not time traveled?
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u/Taograd359 11d ago
Idk! Who do you think I am, the Doctor!?
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u/FollowingFederal97 11d ago
Doctor? Doctor who?
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u/MediocreHope 11d ago
So, I know it's "Time Travel" and there are no rules but End Games kinda establishes that isn't how it works.
Remember the scene at the end of End Games? Ya know, at the lake?
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u/Varrondy 11d ago
Let's not forget that they also made a machine in that movie that pushes time through you, so you can literally become immortal
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u/dern_the_hermit 11d ago
Yeah, but he only did it once, he didn't do it a second time.
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u/AllEliteJackass 11d ago
Well technically, he went back in time twice. Once to the events of the first Avengers movie, then he goes back in time from there to the..60s? to get the space stone, and then back to his correct time
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u/Acidz_123 11d ago
To be fair and incredibly pedantic, he's technically renting time that has already passed. He isn't creating new seconds to use.
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u/adderallanalyst 11d ago
You also have to kill a different timeline of yourself to enjoy it and it's not like you go backwards aging.
You would need to do Source Code type of time traveling to accomplish that.
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u/disposablecontact 11d ago
He still dies when he gets too old. Oh, but not when he has shrapnel near his heart, because the people who kidnapped him put him in a room with one of the world's top surgeons and then he installed an electromagnet in his chest to make sure whatever was left would never reach his heart.
And then when he got old enough to care he probably could have invented a de-aging serum because it's fiction and he can if a writer wants him to.
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u/pfeifenix 11d ago
In the comics, hes basically immortal now since he transfered his consciousness to his machine or something.
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u/Big_G_667 11d ago
He continued to age at exactly the same rate.
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u/Catgirl_Amer 11d ago
The time machine literally allowed them to de-age people
They turned antman into a baby, and an old man, in the same scene.
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u/Big_G_667 11d ago
I guess you're right, but that was the defective version of the machine. "pushing time through Scott instead of Scott through time" was the line I think.
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u/Anonymous37 11d ago
"Leave it to the billionaire to buy the world some more time."
-- Earth X, Alex Ross
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u/Stuck_at_Work_Till_5 11d ago
He’s still aging the entire time.
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u/Catgirl_Amer 11d ago
Except the time machine allowed them to reverse that
Remember when they turned ant man into a baby?
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u/Entangler 11d ago
It's true. Kang controlled the timeline. There was no way to extend your life, even just one second, from that design.
The reason Tony needs to do this at all is because he fumbled the tesseract and made a Loki varient. So, if this endeavor offered any extra seconds then it was for Loki, but it didn't cost him a dime.
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u/Penguin_Gabe 11d ago
ok maybe get out of the deep marvel lore and realize were talking about this line thematically, and how he literally is buying time yet saying he cant, and how thats weak characterization and writing
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u/nicolasmcfly 11d ago
"please ignore the universe laws to analyze this line wrongly"
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u/Penguin_Gabe 11d ago
what does this even fucking mean? are you mocking me for “analyzing” the line wrong? which universes laws am I ignoring?
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u/nicolasmcfly 11d ago
or maybe get out of the deep marvel lore
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u/Penguin_Gabe 11d ago
ah I see. That shit is “deep” lore to me as it was made after the fucking movie we are talking about. all that shit aside you really think its a good line that Stark literally says money cant buy you a second chance in the conversation where he has a second chance to talk to his fucking dad? its a shit line
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u/Snakeprincess69 11d ago
more like you grabbing bullshit by the fist fulls and trying to plug it into plot holes of a bad movie.
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u/nicolasmcfly 11d ago
It's amazing how rude people will get because you don't hate the same things they do
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u/Superb-Obligation858 11d ago
Yet another instance of this movie breaking the rules it establishes.
Love it to death, but goddamn is it easy to pick it apart.
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u/TwoBlackDots 11d ago
The movie never breaks the rules it establishes, especially not with this line.
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u/kenobiwan67 11d ago
I feel like this line is intentional in referencing he literally spent money to get more time
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u/Seel_Team_Six 11d ago
Walked out soon as it became apparent it was stupid done-a-billion-times-before-on-campy-Saturday-cartoons time travel story. What a way to ruin an amazing series before then.
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u/DrVaginaPuncher 11d ago
Money can't buy time, only the power to mess with it like a literal god.