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u/mojoburquano 8d ago
Well Iāve tried NOT having stomach rolls, and that didnāt work.
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u/lordunholy 8d ago
If The Rock were to slouch over, he'd have rolls. Very, very small but it's nearly impossible to eliminate completely.
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u/eolson3 8d ago
Frankly even imaging what it would look like on a full grown human and it is not comfortable.
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u/LunaMunaLagoona 8d ago
I mean it's just basic physics.
Where do you expect the skin, fat and muscle to go if not outwards when bending? Crush your internal organs?
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u/ThunderySleep 8d ago
More I think about this, stomach rolls like that seem like a sign of fitness when hunching over, as opposed to just a big round gut.
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u/Dragowaow 8d ago
Exactly, i prefer to just be fit enough that the rolls only show if i slouch. No need to be 100% slim
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u/kronos91O 8d ago
100% slim is technically unhealthy I think...
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u/Euphoric_Fruit_7044 8d ago
Very unhealthy, your body uses fat as joint cushioning, and it also plays a role in hormonal regulation I think, so too little body fat will really fuck you up
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u/rinsaber 8d ago
Is that what they mean when bodybuilding is quite dangerous? I heard bodybuilders have really low body fat they have a narrow margin.
I don't know if thus is true or have relates but it sounds like it...
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u/Fenc58531 8d ago
No it generally means the abundant amount of steroids in bodybuilding.
No one in bodybuilding actually keeps a low body fat year round. And most of them are in that ultra low bf like a month of the year at most.
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u/LordNoodles 7d ago
Yeah but for 99.9% of the population this is a non issue.
Getting to dangerously low levels of body fat isnāt something you do accidentally.
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u/readlock 8d ago
Well, itās impossible. You canāt lose all your fat in the absence of disease. This isnāt a reason to excuse body fat beyond a healthy limit (if you are trying to define āhealthyā) but also highlights that humans are always meant to have some amount of fat.
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u/Lumen_DH 7d ago
Thereās only one person that achieved this. Thus it shows how nigh impossible this is. Fat IS important to the body, not just as energy storage.
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u/selfawarefeline 8d ago
yeah, at my lowest weight, which was way too low, i still had a belly
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u/cupcakeconstitution 8d ago
Same here. I was underweight and still had a belly pooch and rolls. Weāre simply human. Not all of us are built to be incredibly smooth. Hell, even the ones we see still have scretchies, rolls, cellulite, etc. and thatās pretty cool :)
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u/incipit-satan 8d ago
Even when I was really, really thin I still had those rolls when I sat. Totally normal, sadly normal bodies are not really represented in much media today. If we replaced all models and actors with average healthy people I feel like most folks, especially those who are coming of age, would feel much more confident.
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u/selfawarefeline 8d ago
absolutely, my bmi was about 16.1 and i still had a noticeable belly and it made me very upset. nowadays, iām a lot more accepting and my bmi is about 33 lol
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u/incipit-satan 8d ago
It was once considered very attractive for someone to have a rounder tummy, it meant they were well nourished (and could hunt or farm effectively).
I'm 5'8 170lbs and I know to some people that might seem thin but I still have a belly, soft thighs, etc. I used to be 110lbs and I've always had a thicker bottom half even then. Your overall shape won't really change no matter how much you lose. A lot of people assume they'll get a totally different body type just by gaining/losing weight. Took me way too long to accept spot reduction is impossible without surgery.
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u/AIM9L 8d ago
is it the norm to say 5'8 and 170 thin now? genuine question not trying to be an ass
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u/kbotc 8d ago
5ā8ā who works out could be healthy with little body fat at 170, but thin it is not. I was at 148 and I was gaunt. I wish nutrition had been better in the early ā00s when I was wrestling because I was lifting weights, and doing hours of practice but I ate next to nothing so what should have been massive gains wasted away.
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u/possiblemate 7d ago
Could be depends on if the person who is responding is m/f. For woman one thing that seems to get forgotten about is tits are heavy sacks of fat, so that technically increases BMI and body, fat, but the woman can still be over all slender despite weight. Or have heavier/ denser muscle/ bone build- like I'm am 5'6 woman who's not a twig but I dont "look fat" and people are suprises to hear I'm like 155 or so lbs.
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u/marvelous__magpie 8d ago
They do change size though. When your body fat is low they're clearly just skin , when you're bigger they're properly grabbable and clearly made more of fat.
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u/DaizyDoodle 8d ago
I wish I had stomach rolls. I have a whole loaf.
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u/frozenropes 8d ago
Same. If my stomach could make rolls Iād think I was skinny.
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u/Currency_Agitated 8d ago
Aphrodite actually changed her appearance based on the person in front of her. That was why she was called The Goddess Of Beauty. So maybe the sculptor mearly thought that this is what she would look like to him. XD
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u/awesomepawn 8d ago •
Dude just had his wife model and it was a perfect depiction of aphrodite
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u/TheBirminghamBear 8d ago
Man needs to help his wife find the other half of her head.
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u/Stoppablemurph 8d ago
He just did that thing we all do where we start writing big letters and realize too late that we don't have enough room. He fit what he could on the rock he was working with, the rest of the head is on the base with a hyphen.
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u/DrBoomkin 8d ago
Realistically, the model was probably a prostitute/slave.
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u/Sarcastic-Ad-Bot 8d ago •
What the fuck you just call my wife?
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u/douchebaggins-69 8d ago
Realistically, fit people have "rolls" when they in that position.
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u/APoopingBook 8d ago
Everyone does because if you didn't, when you stood up and it un-rolled, your stomach would literally rip apart.
That's the only way you can have skin cover an area where it is sometimes long, sometimes short, based on if you are bending or not. It would be like telling someone to make two ends of a piece of paper touch without bending or folding the paper.
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u/LewisKane 8d ago
What's the source of that? I believe you I just wanna read about the origin of it.
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u/DreadMaximus 8d ago
I'm pretty sure Rick Riordan just made that up for his Percy Jackson and the Olympians book series. There are no ancient sources describing that ability
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u/Braith117 8d ago
Makes sense. I think there's one statue of her where she has a wang.
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u/skyeyemx 8d ago
Sauce? šš
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u/This_User_Said 8d ago
Aphroditus. Some statues depict Aphrodite posing the same, lifting robe/skirt revealing an erect phallus.
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u/CumtimesIJustBChilin 8d ago
Uhm... ketchup?
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u/AlexPsyD 8d ago
I'm more of a horseradish sauce kinda guy
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u/TheFlippingFurry 8d ago
Mayochup or bust (this is a joke I swear)
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u/AlexPsyD 8d ago
You're half way to thousand island dressing at that point! So, like, 500 island dressing
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u/oldandfragile 8d ago
Almost 50 and I never questioned the name of the dressing. Lifelong restaurant worker too.
"According to The Oxford Companion to American Food and Drink, the dressing's name comes from the Thousand Islands region, located along the upper St. Lawrence River between the United States and Canada."
Saved the next one a google.
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u/Death_Blossoming 8d ago
Yeah also what we find sexy nowadays is not the same as back then hell only look back a few centuries, there's paintings and such of women that in today's culture would be considered ugly as fuck looking
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u/maybejustadragon 8d ago
The nipple on the ideal breast in the 60s always pointed to the sun.
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u/ShaddowDruid 8d ago
Here was the goddess of beauty, Aphrodite was the goddess of love and fertility.
She was thought of as the most beautiful woman because part of her powers caused her to change her appearance based on the tastes of the person she was with.
So no one saw her the same way as anyone else, yet everyone saw her as the most beautiful woman they'd ever seen.
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u/Charles_Whethers 8d ago
"You're missing half of your head, both your arms and, uh, one nipple?"
"Yer into that now."
"Hey, you're the goddess. Here. Have a dead bird."
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u/ShaddowDruid 8d ago
Hahahahaha if that's what you saw, that's what you're into. Don't forget how many monster humpers are out there.
People want to do Arachne, Medusa, and the Minotaur.
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u/kitsunewarlock 8d ago
I mean Medusa was supposed to be beautiful, right? Sure, snakes for hair after Minerva cursed her but enough people think snake scales are beautiful that we turn them into clothes and jewelry.
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u/ShaddowDruid 8d ago
Whether she was cursed or not is up to interpretation, but jshe was transformed entirely. Snakes for hair, serpentine body, reptilian eyes and fangs, and a stare that turned flesh to stone.
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u/1MechanicalAlligator 8d ago
Snakes for hair, serpentine body, reptilian eyes and fangs, and a stare that turned flesh to stone.
No need for the stare, I'm already rock-hard reading that.
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u/littleferrhis 8d ago
Originally the Greeks had her as a typical monster, but with fair cheeks.
Then when the Romans took over Greece and appropriated their culture, they gave her the villain backstory of her being hot and banging Neptune(Poseidon) after which Minerva(Athena) cursed her.
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u/BubbaTee 8d ago
People want to do Arachne, Medusa, and the Minotaur.
Well yeah, Zeus wants to have sex 9 times a day with 13 different objects.
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u/ReprehensibleIngrate 8d ago
Ah, Greek goddess Aphrodite. Didnāt expect you to look like a chubby pastel goth, but please come in.
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u/iannypoo 8d ago edited 2d ago
Zeus' wife, Hera, was not the goddess of beauty.
Hearth, marriage, home, sure -- but not beauty.
as u/bonglicc420 correctly pointed out, Hestia was the goddess of the hearth
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u/bonglicc420 8d ago
Hestia would be the goddess of the Hearth
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u/LeoIsRude 7d ago
Yeah it's kind of her only gig. Just sitting in front of a fireplace. She barely even gets remembered. Shame on that guy for saying it's Hera.
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u/kane2742 8d ago
Wikipedia and Britannica both say that Aphrodite was also a goddess of beauty.
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u/Green_Evening 8d ago edited 7d ago
Omg! I was on a trip in college with a really pretty girl. She took one look at a statue like this and immediately remarked on the statue's stomach. Even my stupid 19 year old self could tell how much seeing human proportions, that looked like her, meant to her.
EDIT: spelling
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u/hXcPickleSweats 7d ago
It can have a massive impact on a person and their self image. When you're shit on for having rolls it takes a big toll on you. Especially when literally every other person with a body gets rolls. Even the most skinny person gets rolls when they bend over or sit yet we're shamed for it. I always try to compliment people on these kinds of forced insecurities, if you will, because it's completely normal. It's shitty that someone can feel less than because of a totally normal thing. It's like bullying someone for having round eye balls or for having lungs. It makes me happy to hear she was able to have this positive experience that made her more comfortable with her body.
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u/Bombadilicious 8d ago
TBS used to have Dinner and a Movie with hosts and a special guest. One day the guest stopped to comment on her own rolls showing in the shot and the host guy said "Your Bodicelli whoop-di-doos?"
Thirty years later, I still call stomach rolls "Bodicelli whoop-di-doos"
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u/GentlewomanBastard 8d ago
Two things:
1: I love this, and might steal it
2: I think itās actually supposed to be Botticelli, after Sandro Botticelli, the dude who painted The Birth of Venus.
I lied, third thing: Dinner and a Movie! Man that really brought me back, I would watch those all the time.
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u/Masterofunlocking1 8d ago
Women with a little belly are super attractive to me honestly.
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u/Shelbyb425 8d ago
Well that just boosted my self confidence lol
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u/hoocoodanode 8d ago
There are people whose highlight of their day is the moment your sphere of influence intersects with theirs. Sometimes it's a conversation, maybe it's nothing more than seeing you walk by their window on your way to the bus stop, but I wish there was a way you could see the wake of happiness you leave behind you as you move through your day.
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u/dancingmugs 7d ago
This sentiment is so beautiful & wholesome that I just had to stop and leave a comment. Thanks for putting this into perspective; I have not thought of it this way before.
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u/molokococktail 7d ago
I'm going to keep this in my notes and read it when I'm feeling down, thank you.
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u/GameAndHike 8d ago
Just remember: weāre programmed to be attracted to healthy people. As long as the weight is healthy, itās probably attractive.
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u/TheApathyParty3 8d ago
I love thicc, curvy women. If anything, it's the super-skinny thing that turns me off, personally. That's just a me thing, not trying to skinny-shame anyone.
I just don't like it when it looks like I could play your ribs like a xylophone.
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u/ShanghaiSlug 8d ago
As a woman with just enough smoosh to have a bit of a belly, I think I look hot!
It means I'm healthy and not starvating, also i have i nice figure.
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u/Deniu48 8d ago
Well in ancient Greek being plump was considered to be beautifill
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u/backinthe2000s 8d ago
And having a small dick too. The well endowed people were barbarians.
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u/Heimerdahl 8d ago
It's a fun historical anecdote and there's nothing wrong with choosing to believe it, but this is somewhat unfounded; especially the justification via naked statues. My classical archaeology prof explained it quite convincing, imo : a big (or normal) penis is kind of distracting. So when you want to have naked statues (for interesting cultural reasons), but don't want them to be all about the dick, you just make them smaller.
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u/Paexan 8d ago
I can't remember where I read it first, almost certainly on Reddit, but the notion that classic antiquity viewed a large penis in the same way we do clown shoes has always stuck with me.
On the other hand, consider Priapus. whoooole lotta comically large members being celebrated there.
But that actually speaks to your point. It doesn't make sense to diminish the size because size is viewed as vulgar, while simultaneously celebrating a deity of genitalia/fertility/more, who sports a cartoonishly large, permanent erection.
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u/SyrupFiend16 8d ago
I also had a tour guide in Greece that mentioned that there was a sort of symbolism attached to it too. That to be ācivilizedā men, they had to curb their base āanimalā instincts, and a huge engorged penis might have been seen as being too uncivilized and unrestrained
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u/Deniu48 8d ago
So whenever you think you're not perfect enough, just think that you are perfect in a different taste
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u/gaelorian 8d ago
That always struck me as something Herodotus and Xenophon just themselves decided to be what people should remember. Like Grandpa telling his grandkids stories about his courtship with Grandma while Grandma is in the other room rolling her eyes and shaking her head.
Nobody wanted to be the first historical size queen.
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u/TheWholeFuckinShow 8d ago
.... What does that make me if I'm a grower, not a shower? Beautifully until I'm swinging a great axe?
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u/Tomato_skins 8d ago edited 8d ago
The disappointment when you get it up and she finds out itās huge š«
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u/TheWholeFuckinShow 8d ago edited 8d ago
"I thought I was dating a sophisticated man, not some knuckle dragger barbarian with a big dick."
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u/Random_Stealth_Ward 8d ago
You are smart and sexy then you get excited and return to monke Because all your blood goes to the other head
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u/KaceyMoe 8d ago
But you cannot have your arms nor the top of your head. It's okay; you're still beautiful. ā¤ļø
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u/CTDKZOO 8d ago
The woman I date is the thinnest woman I've ever dated. She's healthy, just thin (size 6 I think).
She is convinced her stomach rolls are bad.
I'm convinced that she's a pure-fire hottie and there's nothing I'd change. Ever. Even if she changed.
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u/Just-a-bi 8d ago
Most people get stomach rolls when they bend over like that. Even my friend who looks like a twig does.
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u/potatohead437 8d ago
having some amount of fat especially for females is healthy and nothing to be ashamed about.
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u/perksofbeingcrafty 8d ago
I low key used to go to the art museum and look at old Roman and Greek statues to make myself feel better about my body. And like it worked?
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u/Lightbrand 8d ago
Okay I need a picture of someone without that when they're in that position. I can't even fathom unless they're skin-on-bone thin.
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u/LiuPaoChi 8d ago
I have stomach rolls, and there are times that I feel sort of insecure about them.
This pic made my self-esteem quite a bit better. ā¤
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u/TakeOnMe-TakeOnMe 8d ago
Bodies with normal and healthyāyes, healthy!ābodily features are awesome. Normal is beautiful!
Remember that chiseled abs are the exception, attained through significant physical training, dietary control and, often, calorie restriction.
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u/MustardSeed42069 8d ago
This actually made me feel better about myself
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u/Colosso95 8d ago
Stomach rolls are cute, maybe growing up seeing a lot of these statues influenced my preferences
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u/Stevie-cakes 8d ago
She's hunching over
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u/Jrebeclee 8d ago
Many women including myself still get self conscious about having rolls while hunched over.
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u/Sqwill 8d ago
You can have a six pack and still have rolls when this hunched over.
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u/tbbHNC89 8d ago
No matter how a person identifies a literal chorus of personal trainers could tell someone this every single day, and it wouldn't matter if they experience body dysmorphia.
The human mind tends to be a lot of peoples worst enemy.
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u/Sith__Pureblood 8d ago
Many men including myself still get self conscious about having rolls while hunched over.
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u/ladyinthemoor 8d ago
Yeah exactly and her rolls are fairly small. If I have hunched over like that, it could cover Australia
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u/Felidaeh_ 8d ago
It's almost like skin folds when you bend over
And that we have fat
People need to stop thinking skinny = "the thing"
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u/Altruistic_Sample449 8d ago
Also if this statue were not a statue and were able to stand up, itās stomach would be flat. So these arenāt REALLY rolls. This status skinny AF
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u/eternalscreamingvoid 8d ago
I mean, everyone has rolls if you sit down like that, I think thatās what theyāre getting at. That itās not a bad thing and a very normal thing. Idk, just my thoughts.
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u/GarranDrake 8d ago
Right, that's what I thought when I saw it. Occasionally you sit in a weird position and see your stomach rolls, or you stand oddly without realizing it and think you have a gut. We don't need to be hot af all the time.
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u/Ballinbutatwhatcost2 8d ago
I'm like 110 lbs and even I occasionally have stomach rolls if I sit right
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u/WhiteBoyFlipz 8d ago
6ā1, 140 pounds. my stomach can look mighty plump at angles, or lying down at times
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u/YouJellyFish 8d ago
Wat. Are you a guy? I'm 6'1" and 185. I'm in p good shape. If I was 140 I'd be a skeleton, no matter the angle
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u/WhiteBoyFlipz 8d ago
yep 22 year old dude, iām pretty damn skinny. but i have pretty shitty eating habits, in terms of numbers of meals per day. so i tend to stagnate on weight
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u/Cold-Thanks- 8d ago
Even standing straight, the statue would still have extra fat on the stomach area and not be flat/super thin
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u/syntaxterror69 8d ago
Dunno why, but I was half expecting a photo of some tripe rolled up around something
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u/johannebremer 8d ago
Damn. Somehow the partial sculpture provides more movement than i can imagine the entire piece having. I'd love to aee this complete though.
The ancients didn't fuck around with art; they nailed it. Even a partial is inspiring..
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u/London__Lad 8d ago
I have Myotonic Dystrophy which cuts through my body mass making me underweight. I still have rolls when I bend. In Ancient times having a bit of fat indicated wealth and affluence. Being a godess couldn't really get more affluent than that.
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u/workgymworkgym 8d ago
But I don't want them
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u/pm_me_some_kitties2 8d ago
Ehh, at the angle the statue is in, everyone would have them. You have the same volume of skin, but now compressed in a smaller space.
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u/Buttermilkman 8d ago
She's crouching down, so yeah it folds up. Also, this is just one artists interpretation.
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u/__The-1__ 8d ago
I've got more head than aphrodite